Most people access the Fediverse through one of the large instances: lemmy.world, kbin, or beehaw. New or small instances of Lemmy have no content by default, and can most easily get content by linking to larger Lemmy instances. This is done manually one “Community” at a time (I spent 15 minutes doing this yesterday). Meanwhile, on larger instances, content naturally aggregates as a result of the sheer number of users. Because people generally want a user experience similar to Reddit, I think it’s inevitable that most user activity will be concentrated in one or two instances. It is probable that these instances follow in the footsteps of Reddit- the cycle repeats.
I actually think the Fediverse is in the beginning the process of fragmenting into siloed smaller, centralized instances. Beehaw, which is on the list of top instances, just blacklisted everyone from lemmy.world. Each of the three largest instances now are working to be a standalone replacement for Reddit and are in direct competition with each other. It is possible that this fragmentation and instability? of Lemmy instances will kill the viability of Federated Reddit altogether, but hopefully not.
These are my main takeaways from my three days on the Fediverse. I will stick around to see if the Fediverse can sustain itself after the end of the Reddit blackouts.
I think instances need to be more focused. For example monero.town, very focused on Monero. If people are interested in other technology, sub to an instance focused on that, etc. but there is no reason to have all the communities on all the instances. I don’t see how mega instances that try to replace reddit are viable in the long term, especially if they start to defederate.
If being focused on one thing is for you then by all means, go for it. I very much doubt that that’s the case for everyone, though, not everyone is comfortable saying “metal is my whole (online) life”, “crypto is my whole life”, “plush toys are my whole life”, and if that isn’t the case, well, do you join the plush toys or death metal instance?
It’s not like the universe put an upper cap on the number of communities. Instances themselves can be little villages in which everyone knows each other on a human, instead of interest, or they can be big cities in which you’re considered crazy if you greet someone on the street, goes about their way, and maybe you get a chance encounter. Or all they do is focus on wet shaving and gladly engage with anyone else who is in need of advise or information, but not nearly as nerdy about it than them.
There’s place for all of that in the fediverse.
Completely agree. Would be great having one instance for hobbies and then communities for each different hobby within it. An instance for sports and sub communities for each sport and memes, and so on. The opportunity to make something nice is in front of us. Maybe the collective mind will figure it out eventually, while creating and discarding lots of crap along the way. Growing pains.
So if I’m interested in many topics I have to create an account on every singles instance?
That’s not how Lemmy works. You just have an account on ONE instance. And then subscribe to all the communities that interest you, some may be local to your instance and some may be hosted on other instances.
Why would I join an instance about music for example to end up subscribing to communities that have nothing to do with music?
Of the themed instances that exist now, I’d be willing to bet that in addition to their local communities they host that they also subscribe to other communities that aren’t strictly related to whatever theme they are going with.
For example, I’m sure the Star Trek instance also subscribes to the [email protected] community so the admin can stay abreast of Lemmy news. And probably also follows other technology related communities as well.
I think most people would just want to gravitate to whatever they want to be identified with. There’s nothing stopping you from joining a music themed instance and then adding some non-music subscriptions to your list. It doesn’t force those subs on anyone else on the instance.
And if you don’t want to be identified with any specific topic or community, you can always join Beehaw or Lemmy.world and subscribe to whatever you like piecemeal.
Maybe the user feels music is an important part of their identity and likes the idea to call a music instance their home. Or any other reason, doesn’t have to have any reason, especially not a reason which is compelling to others.
Maybe the same user still has other interests besides music and likes to follow those.
Or in summary: Why not? It’s possible.
For different people, different criteria will influence their choice of home instance. Some may even choose to have several home instances. Other factors might be uptime, latency, defederation status, size, local communities, rules, …
For most people, it does not matter much what their home instance is, which is just another possible explanation for registering on a music instance and subscribing to remote, non-music communities. Like how you can register to Microsoft services with a Gmail address.
The problem with that is users need to make a separate account for each instance. Imagine if you had to re-login every time you wanted to view a different subreddit. It’s a major pain.
That problem could be mitigated if you had an app that could seamlessly log in to multiple instances and display the content in one place. Credentials would be stored locally on your phone for security. Do you know if that exists, or if anyone’s working on something similar?
From what I understand, and someone correct me if I’m wrong, you don’t need multiple accounts (unless one instance has blacklisted another). You can subscribe to a community on a different instance and be able to comment and post without creating an account on the second instance.
For example, on kbin’s search page you can search for [email protected] and subscribe. programming.dev is a completely separate instance running Lemmy with its own communities. Then you can see content from there on your subscribed page.
That’s actually not true if the instances are federated with each other. I post/subscribe to a few lemmy.nz communities despite having a beehaw account!
If the instances are federated with each other you don’t need to do that. You can access other instance’s content even while logged into your own.
I agree fully with this. Centralizing all of the major communities with Beeyah is silly. And I wish the moderation rules were at the community level instead of instance level, but I understand that’s a limitation of the ActivityPub protocol (as far as I can tell).
Currently, the issue is people signing up to an instance with unvetted and unrestricted signups to troll/harass people on other instances rather than anything to do with communities.
Communities have moderators too.
Sure, but they still have to abide by that instance’s guidelines. And as far as I can tell, it’s easy to subscribe to an external community without ever seeing those guidelines.