Hello, with the spicy beehaw drama I was wondering, would it be possible to selfhost a lemmy instance literally just for yourself and no one else to like, circumvent any defederation shenanigans? As all instances federate per default, this should work right?
Allthough, as far as my understanding of how federation works is that I would need to manually subscribe to every community on every instance that I’m interested in as federation only syncs communities that have at least one subscriber on the hosting instance, correct?
Or is there a way to subscribe to EVERYTHING?
Other than that is there any obvious downside to doing that?
Just curious, which beehaw drama?
Edit: ah, scrolled down a bit and found this, assume that’s it.
Beehaw is defederating from sh.itjustwor.ks and Lemmy.world.Personally I think it’s silly to be upset over it considering defederation is one of the selling points of Lemmy.
Beehaw is just going for a more curated experience which I think is completely fine. I’m sure once they have more moderators they’ll consider refederating anyway.
That’s the stated plan, wait a bit until things settle
They defederated from lemmy.world and sh.itjust.works.
When people say “instances federate by default”, they don’t mean the instances engage in active content discovery. They mean the default behaviour when someone goes to look for content that’s offsite is to connect to the remote instance.
Running a solo Lemmy or kbin instance puts all of the responsibility of content discovery on your own shoulders. You’ll need to go out and scout other instances to see what you want to follow, and then subscribe to those sources in order to keep content flowing.
I highly recommend having a secondary account that you use to subscribe to things somewhat indiscriminately so you can separate out your subscribed feed from your all feed in a meaningful way.
This is a good idea, use one account just to sub everything so syncing works and I can use “all” and “subsribed” seperatly, very good idea. Do you know if there is an easy way to “subscribe to everything”? Like a script or something?
What’s happened to beehaw?
Defederation of a couple of servers. Think one was lemmy.world
Lol that’s a big yikes. Glad I never managed to make an account over at beehaw.
It was simply a moderation issue, the two instances in question were giving them a lot of moderation work, and lacking Mastodon’s “limit” option they decided to just defederate them until things settle down a bit, remember that this is all volunteers in their spare time, not employees of a corporation
What is the “limit” option?
It’s just temporary until mod tools mature enough to deal with the trolls that were using lemmy.world’s open registration and automated registration approval to quickly evade bans and troll beehaw.
Some of us are not so lucky.
I didn’t make one there because it has a weird name. Silly lol
Other than that is there any obvious downside to doing that?
You must be able to administrate and pay for a server.
Apart from that, it would not be nice to participate in the network and use the computing capacity of others, but not bring any infrastructure into the network yourself (by registration lock).It’s not really all that difficult to spin up your own “server”. Sure, desktop hardware isn’t exactly targeted towards running a web server, but for a purpose like your own Lemmy/federation, I’d imagine just about any old hardware from the last 5 years or so oughta be fine.
To me, the desktop hardware note sounds like you want to host the instance at home. In that case you need a suitable router, a static IP address or a DNS service, besides your own domain.
Not sure what specs are needed for a kbin instance, but pretty much anything running an x64 processor and a reasonable amount of ram should work, even if it’s really old.
I think the biggest issue you might have is storage since as far as I understand everything you subscribe to is pushed and saved to your server, at least for a period
But if you are pulling all the data to your instance by subscribing, wouldn’t this actually alleviate some of the load on the original instance? Obviously not as much as if you were hosting the content yourself, but still moreso than if you were directly interfacing with their instance?
Or am I completely wrong there. I don’t have a firm grasp of how content stored/cached between instances.
So, if I already have a server in my house, I could theoretically spin up a Lemmy or kbin instance solely for myself?
In that case you need a suitable router, a static IP address or a DNS service, besides your own domain.
I believe an instance can whitelist which would block all other instances and only allow ones it approves. I don’t know of one that does that yet, but I could see beehaw doing that in the future—in which case, having a solo instance would not help.
It makes me think of when you sign up for a VPS like linode and they have a bunch of drop-in applications you can click to install. Like cpanel, wordpress etc. But you aren’t really fully running it in the same way as if it was physically a device in your home. There are some pro admins taking care of some of the details.
I feel something like that would be the middle ground for people wanting independence without having to learn such deep systems admin skills.
I’ve been thinking the same. Going to look up some guides later on to see how much of a hassle it would be.
I think when I looked at doing it with Mastodon, the juice wasn’t worth the squeeze for a single user (this was months ago so might be different now) but Lemmy might be better suited.
I am interested in this as well. If you do find any decent guides I would love a link, and I can do the same if I find anything.
Does it require some programming knowledge or is it litrerally copypaste?
That’s what I like about kbin, it does both. When it’s a bit further along in development, I’ll probably look into hosting my own instance of it.
That’s any interesting idea. Curious to see if it would work.
I’ve been curious about this also but for a different reason. I assume all my posts and comments are hosted at the instance I’m subscribed to. Should that server go down away for any reason my account and all its data would be lost right? I’d rather be in control of keeping my own data safe.
There was an excellent post about this today that I saw. Essentially it’s like this:
There is an original community, and then there are mirror copies.
So if you post a comment via your server to a community that is actually hosted on kbin.social for example, you are posting a comment to the mirror of that community (on your local instance), which then sends the comment out to the actual original community, which then federates your comment out to all instances that are mirroring that community.
