• saigot
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    1 year ago

    1K a month is pretty trivial compared to the cost of all the public money used to punish them (e.g cops). Even if you don’t care about the humanity aspect at all UBI makes sense just from a pure numbers perspective.

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        1 year ago

        I know it’s a popular sentiment, because private prisons are so in-your-face evil, but they’re not as ubiquitous as the population seems to believe.

        Twenty-seven states and the federal government incarcerated 96,370 people in private prisons in 2021, representing 8% of the total state and federal prison population.

        Yes, that’s too many. Yes, we need to ban these things at the federal level. But let’s not forget the grift from state and local prisons, in many cases worse because they can’t be as readily audited.

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      San Francisco’s Department of Homelessness spends about $700 million to manage their unhoused people. This does not include other public money like police or EMS. There are roughly 7,000 unhoused people in San Francisco. That’s over $100,000 per year per person.

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        1 year ago

        letting problems fester just makes it more expensive to deal with. imagine if we prevented half of them from becoming homeless in the first place.

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      1 year ago

      $1,000/mo. is not UBI, not like it’s usually discussed. I’d go for widening this program, let’s keep the experiment rolling until it pans out or collapses.