• Conyak@lemmy.tf
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    1 year ago

    Did he start in the middle or at the end. I feel like the last three movies that came out were not part of his plan but I don’t really know much about it.

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      IIRC, he did intend to make 3 trilogies, but after making the prequels, he wanted to actually spend time with his kids and knew that making a sequel trilogy would consume another decade of his life.

      He did “consult” on episode VII, but apparently he only had like one or two meetings and they used basically none of his ideas and didn’t take any more input from him.

      There’s a bunch of info out there about what his trilogy would have been, and it’s a shame because it actually sounds so much cooler than what we got. If George had helmed the next trilogy but had maybe a co-writer/co-director to reign him in a bit like he had on the OG trilogy, we might have had something truly wild.

      EDIT: This video has some really interesting details about what could have been.

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          George Lucas lost his magic after the OT, and the Prequels were horrible movies that were only “saved” by the Clone Wars animated series.

          George’s problem is he is unable or unwilling to “kill his darlings,” as writers say.

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            I’d argue that the prequels were excellent, Shakespearian-level stories that pioneered the VFX of their time, but suffered from sometimes ridiculous dialogue and a director that wasn’t good at working with actors (especially inexperienced actors).

            If George had a writing/directing partner to help smooth stuff out and still had his ex-wife in the editing room, the prequels would probably have been damn near masterpieces.

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              Phantom Menace is a story that never needed to be told that does nothing to advance the plot of the series.

              Attack of the Clones had no real plot.

              Revenge of the Sith was… okay. Would’ve made a decent middle movie in the Prequel trilogy that we should have gotten, which began with the Clone Wars, because there is no reason whatsoever to see Anakin as a child.

              I know lots of people weren’t even alive when TPM came out and thus have childhood memories of the prequel trilogy and give them more slack, but they are in no way Shakespearean masterpieces.

              They don’t need to be. Star Wars is pulpy fun and that’s awesome. But they need to be coherent, and the Prequels are miles worse than any other Star Wars content ever made (not counting holiday special).

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          oh idk, if his kids grew up and continued his legacy we’d probably be better off. this was the work of corporations that existed before him and their greed.

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      I figured 4 is middle-ish, but yeah, I’ve seen interviews where he talks about how Star Wars is “the story of Anakin Skywalker”, so the prequels make sense, but I think the next trilogy was just executives with dollar signs in their eyes.

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        the story of Anakin Skywalker”

        This was just him advertising for the Prequels.

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      1 year ago

      Slightly tangential, but this is the version I’d have loved.

      Also there are enough tell tale signs in the original Star Wars (ie IV) that Vader wasn’t originally Anakin (4k77 even shows him as Lord Darth Vader in the credits, and Obi Wan calls him Darth). Lucas likes to make things up as he goes along :)

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        God how can a dude with such great ideas so frequently have such batshit terrible ideas lol