• mondoman712@lemmy.mlOP
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    Again, the point is more about car dependence. Why be forced into driving everywhere when you could have other options available?

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      The solution to car dependence is to depend on another corporation gate keeping the cars?

      Help me unsee the irony here

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        The solution is in the video… It’s walkable, cycle-able cities with good public transport.

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          Right, leave it to our very efficient and trustworthy governments to create non restrictive 15 min cities that everyone will enjoy lol. What could go wrong?

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              I’ll relieve you of this debate so you can return to your regularly scheduled echo chamber time. Sorry to disturb.

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                I’d be happy to continue to discuss this with you, but please keep your fossil fuel funded conspiracy nonsense out of it.

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                  This ideology could be astroturfed fossil fuel propaganda, but electric cars are being mandated in most countries. Fossil fuel corps won’t hold on to a battle they’re already losing.

                  The 15 min city “conspiracy theory” comes from people not wanting government over reach, especially since these govs are considering centralized digital currencies. This needs to be addressed.

                  Otherwise we’re going to trade one dystopia for another.

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                    The 15 minute cities conspiracy theory came from covid deniers who, when it became clear that governments weren’t trying to instate perpetual lockdowns, needed a new thing to latch on to and came up with the idea of “climate lockdowns”.

                    The actual 15 minutes cities idea is literally just to have the things you need daily within a 15 minute walk of your home. It’s pretty sensible and not harmful to your mobility at all. But now the guy that came up with the idea gets death threats because of people spreading this bullshit.

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                    especially since these govs are considering centralized digital currencies.

                    what’s that got to do with anything?