• Hirom@beehaw.org
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    5
    ·
    edit-2
    1 year ago

    That’s a good article with lots of context on the issue.

    However one thing is missing: round trip efficiency figures. The whole process of turning electricity into heat, then back into electricity, is probably low efficiency.

    There is discussion of directly using heat for industrial processes or heating. That’s probably a best use of energy since it avoid some energy conversation losses.

    • Arcos@feddit.de
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      ·
      1 year ago

      The thing is that efficency doesn’t matter too much if this energy used is from intermittent sources like wind or solar and if there is too much energy at this moment and not everything can be used. So it is better to safe energy at lower efficiency than not saving anything at all.

      • Hirom@beehaw.org
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        1 year ago

        Yes and no.

        Better store than loose energy.

        But the choice isn’t between heat storage+conversion and no storage. It’s between differents type of storage (heat, chemical, gravity, electrolysis, freewheel), with multiple technology and chemistry to choose from for each type.

        Since there’s many options to choose from, it make sense to compare overall efficiency and cost.

    • CanadaPlus@lemmy.sdf.org
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      edit-2
      1 year ago

      Yeah, large-scale power plants have an efficiency of maybe 55%. Small scale heat engines are pretty hard to make work better than 30%.

      Storage with solid weights is probably competitive with this. Hopefully someone figures out a low-cost grid battery.