• ieatpwns@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    It feels like her camp keeps leaking this to the news to check interest and like just fucking no

    • Canaconda
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      Wishful Thinking: If they keep trolling Americans enough with it they might actually rally behind whoever actually gets nominated.

      Like it’s to the point I actually have to stipulate that the fact that I’m mentioning Gavin Newsom’s recent campaign announcement, or all the hype around a potential AOC/Bernie ticket… doesn’t mean I endorse them.

      Cuz you mention any single candidate at this point and they have STAUNCH haters. Who bring receipts.

      This is why in Canadian politics Carney swept the floor with a party that was destined to lose terribly. Because he’s a new face.

      Like Jasmin Crocket lost her primary to this new guy. I don’t know anything about him other than a few mins I heard of him on Jimmy Kimmel. But I do think turning over democrats regularly in general is more effective than letting people stay so long they become closer to the political class than their constituents. (Not saying that happened to Jasmine, ffs I hate the internet)

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          Exactly. Receipts. Like I don’t gripe people for bringing them up in the non accusatory way like you did.

          But like I’m Canadian so I don’t have a geolocal focus for American politics. We get the full scattergun blast of everything and a lot of the smaller stuff like that is hard to stay informed on.

          IMO the truth is that all politicians spoil and most spoil faster than we’d like. Only thing we can do is turn them over faster than they can be corrupted.

      • justOnePersistentKbinPlease@fedia.io
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        That Carney was a new face isn’t why the Liberals bounced back.

        1. Trump’s threats and the traditionally entirely too close relationship the Reform party has had with the GOP pushed people away from Milhouse and their party.
        2. Carney being new and a scholar isn’t the reason, they tried that with Michael Ignatieff 20ish years ago.
        3. The “popular support” for the Reform party is people voting against Trudeau, not support for Milhouse our any of their policies.
        4. A massive part of the Carney Liberal win is that the NDP base held their noses and voted strategically against the evil they knew(Milhouse and the Reform party). Helped by Jagmeet Singh being a completely useless silver spoon trust fund brat who has run the party into the ground by consistently backing Trudeau plans instead of leading his own party.

        Whether the Liberals can keep their lead once the NDP leadership race finishes will be something to watch. The NDP base isn’t happy that they voted for an analog to Mulroney, and he is proving to be overly reliant on business to fix what the public sector can do far better.

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          But Pierre also still has his softest kneepads on when he talks about Trump. 😍 😍

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          Yea so like I was saying, I can’t address everything and remain concise. Especially when I’m discussing American politics.

          I don’t disagree with what you’re saying but it’s factually incorrect to deny that Trudeau’s unpopularity was integral to Carney flipping the polls on it’s head.

          And the fact that a bigger context exists, doesn’t detract from my main point being that we need to turn politicians over regularly to maintain a healthy democracy.

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            Trudeau’s unpopularity was integral to Carney flipping the polls on it’s head.

            All he had to do was kill the Caron levy, for the people of the land, clay of the earth in the new West, you know, morons.

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              Trudeau built them a pipeline and they still put AK47 Fuck Trudea stickers on all their shit box trucks.

              And quite frankly as an NDP voter who voted defensively, I would have very likely voted NDP had Trudeau stayed on as leader. The only time he ever got my vote it was becaue he lied about electoral reform.

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    I mean she is not the worst and having waltz as her running mate really helped but why run someone who already lost. I mean I guess that works for republicans but many leftists rather be right than wrong which is why the us is so far right.