• stappern@feddit.it
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    1 year ago

    this, is a bit sad that it always comes down to this… its really not how logic works we determine if things are possible based on evidence. Not the lack of evidence… you can never prove something that doesnt exist, doesnt…

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      1 year ago

      Logic is used in the court of law and it’s completely reliant on evidence missing to prove innocence.

      Hence, “there is zero evidence that the defendant was in the location at the time of the crime which proves their innocence.”

      Adding: I mean, the biggest evidence some people have is that something can’t come from nothing. We have no proof of where our something started or came from (for all we know it’s a game of marbles), so their theory is just as valid as anyone else’s until proven otherwise.

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        1 year ago

        I’m confused about whether you argue for missing evidence not standing against gods existence or against it.

        As you say, a court rules innocence when there is no proof of violation.

        The equivalence to innocence is not gods existence. The equivalence to gods existence is the violation.

        With a lack of evidence, the court would rule against gods existence.

        (But a court ruling does not necessarily mean factual truth anyway. So I think it’s a bad equivalence / analogy. But following it would mean dismissing gods existence because no proof exists.)

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          The claim was that “lack of evidence doesn’t count” and “facts are facts” essentially. Neither of which are true. I’m assuming most people aren’t reading real philosophical arguments for or against god, and the court equivalence is purely an analogy meant to make the idea more relatable.

          At the end of the day—the argument that evidence is needed to prove or deny the existence of a god, is fallible. Purely because it changes based on: the evidence people have, evidence against it people lack, and how people interpret events.

          Anything in the realm of religion and reality comes down to this: it’ll always end as an opinion because it can not be confirmed or denied in any quantifiable way.