• mrgoosmoos
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    let’s just be clear that it is 100% morally acceptable to leak details about literal nazi operations

    yes, if this happened to most other groups, then the appropriate thing to do would be firing the employee. I do not disagree. but the key point is that it happened to, again, literal nazis.

    this is not an in group or out group thing. this is a “these people literally do not believe your life has any value and will kill you for it without a moment’s hesitation and be cheered for it” thing. you cannot tolerate the intolerant.

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      Agreed that it’s 100% morally acceptable. I’ll go one step further and say there is the moral imperative to do so.

      But although I would agree we’re seeing gestapo like tactics here, they are not literal nazis. And that’s not to downplay their reprehensible behavior, only to say “literal” and “nazi” have meanings, and these aren’t quite it.

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        the politics of this administration clearly fall under Neo-Nazism ICE is an enforcement arm of this administration, hence they support the administration and fall under the same label

        I’m really not sure why you would think that they can not be classified as Nazis

        I stand behind my use of the term literal Nazis

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          But definitely not your use of “literally.”

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            1 month ago

            I’m not sure what your point is here.

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            Do you think Nazis arrive in fancy dress, worn by grotesques and monsters as played out in endless re-runs?

            ICE is a neo-nazi organisation.

            Neo-Nazi individuals and organizations employ their ideology to promote what they perceive as the racial or ethnic supremacy (often White supremacy) of their own group; to incite or engage in hatred or discrimination against demographic minorities (often antisemitism and Islamophobia); and, in some cases, to establish a fascist state (e.g., “Fourth Reich”).[1][2]

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neo-Nazism

            In colloquial conversation that is a Nazi. Of course they’re not Germans from the 1930/40s, you’d have to be an extremely obtuse pedant to be arguing that.

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              No argument from me in colloquially calling ICE Nazis.

              The person to whom I was was replying called them “literal Nazis.”