I mean… the drug simply makes you eat less. The moment you stop taking it and begin eating more, of course you are gaining that weight again. Seems people have a hard time understanding that the weight gain comes from what you ingest. You can’t generate fat out of air or doing the photosynthesis.
Why is this comment so controversial? Banding and stomach stapling work the same way - by limiting input. There is a saying in the sports community “you can’t outrun your fork”.
I’m my experience a surprising number of people believe their metabolism and amount they exercise are all to do with their weight gain and not CICO. Unless you’re a bodybuilder you’re gonna burn around 2000 kcal a day pretty much regardless of your regular activity level. Eat more than that and you gain weight, eat less and you lose it. It’s literally the only way.
Sure, but people aren’t having a hard time understanding that what you eat is what affects your weight. People are having a hard time containing their own appetite telling them to eat what they know will make them fat.
That’s why the comment above is being challenged, it’s wrong and makes it sound like fat people are stupid.
Thats fine, but just saying “people are being bombarded with information” does not mean they know. That’s what I’m challenging.
An implication of what I said is also, just because you understand it doesn’t mean everyone else does, or even in the same way. A lot of the time when people come in with a “well d’uh” argument to seemingly common sense studies, it’s because they believe they understand it and assume everyone else believes the same about themselves. Which is rarely the case.
We needed a study to establish that after stopping the intake of a drug that makes you eat less (and starting to eat more because of stopping), you regain the lost weight. I know people understand a concept as obvious as this, but apparently, if we needed such a study, it wasn’t that clear to some.
I mean… the drug simply makes you eat less. The moment you stop taking it and begin eating more, of course you are gaining that weight again. Seems people have a hard time understanding that the weight gain comes from what you ingest. You can’t generate fat out of air or doing the photosynthesis.
Why is this comment so controversial? Banding and stomach stapling work the same way - by limiting input. There is a saying in the sports community “you can’t outrun your fork”.
Because we know. Knowing is not the hard part, the hard part is the keeping up with the diet.
“It seems like people don’t know” nah, that’s wrong. People do know, they are bombarded with information.
I’m my experience a surprising number of people believe their metabolism and amount they exercise are all to do with their weight gain and not CICO. Unless you’re a bodybuilder you’re gonna burn around 2000 kcal a day pretty much regardless of your regular activity level. Eat more than that and you gain weight, eat less and you lose it. It’s literally the only way.
Being bombarded with information does not make one knowledgeable, especially when that information is often arcane and contradictory.
Sure, but people aren’t having a hard time understanding that what you eat is what affects your weight. People are having a hard time containing their own appetite telling them to eat what they know will make them fat.
That’s why the comment above is being challenged, it’s wrong and makes it sound like fat people are stupid.
I think Velociraptor is saying the study is stupid, not people.
Thats fine, but just saying “people are being bombarded with information” does not mean they know. That’s what I’m challenging.
An implication of what I said is also, just because you understand it doesn’t mean everyone else does, or even in the same way. A lot of the time when people come in with a “well d’uh” argument to seemingly common sense studies, it’s because they believe they understand it and assume everyone else believes the same about themselves. Which is rarely the case.
We needed a study to establish that after stopping the intake of a drug that makes you eat less (and starting to eat more because of stopping), you regain the lost weight. I know people understand a concept as obvious as this, but apparently, if we needed such a study, it wasn’t that clear to some.
It’s a willpower issue, not an information issue.
Then you don’t need a study that tells you that not taking the drug makes you gain weight again. Yet here’s a study saying so.
People just do studies, okay? We have a lot of PhDs kicking about, if we don’t keep them busy they’ll become unruly.
and yet Oxford needed a study funded to establish that.
I mean, yes? To establish that appetite reduction is a standard “side” effect of the drug, definitely.