• BestBouclettes@jlai.lu
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    3 months ago

    Not a crossover I expected, goddamn. Bannon is literally what Chomsky spent his life-work denouncing. That’s immensely disappointing…

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    3 months ago

    There’s a reason chomsky has been allowed to be the “imminent thought leader of the left” for the past 60 years. He has not advocated for anything beyond voting democrat.

    Just because he wrote one truth about the media ecosystem doesnt somehow absolve him from that same truth about the media ecosystem.

    He would not consistently be featured in the new york times et al if he was actually a threat to their existence.

  • MyMindIsLikeAnOcean@piefed.world
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    Gonna sound like 20-20 hindsight, but I never found Chomsky to be particularly insightful or interesting in the first place. Same with people like Malcolm Gladwell and Naomi Klein. They’re just “meh”. Yeah, they say some things I agree with…but that’s low hanging fruit. They’re always wrong and no more valuable to me than random people I know or meet.

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      3 months ago

      I think Chomsky has some very valid points and have learned a lot from him. However most of Chomsky’s criticism ironically applies to Chomsky himself. Chomsky tries to limit the left to voting Democrat over and over again instead of pursuing other means of achieving change.

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      Naomi Klein is good, no idea why youre lumping Gladwell, another Epstein intellectual, in with her. She’s not a revolutionary, but she has good insights.

      I might have at one time lumped Chomsky and Klein together but these days he’s more of a Gladwell

    • PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org
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      3 months ago

      Not a defense of Chomsky because fuck him, but he claimed he was an anarcho-syndicalist, i.e. not a tankie. Not everyone who sucks is a tankie.

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        3 months ago

        I agree that he is technically not a tankie, I guess campist would be a more accurate term. But considering these recent revelations, one would does wonder…

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                3 months ago

                Of course. as long as you use the liberal the definition of tankie which is ‘everyone who disagrees with US foreign policy’

                Real answer: I guess Tito? lol

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                3 months ago

                Can someone who justifies russian imperialism and promotes russian propaganda copytext be considered a tankie? :)

                In all seriousness, Chomsky is not tankie.

                That being said, what’s with the association with US oligarchs involved with abuse of minors and happy photos with US authoritarians?

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                  Can someone who justifies russian imperialism and promotes russian propaganda copytext be considered a tankie? :)

                  Chomsky is anti-Russia too, what are you talking about?

                  That being said, what’s with the association with US oligarchs involved with abuse of minors and happy photos with US authoritarians?

                  Answer my question first: were there any “tankies” on Epstein’s plane? Chomsky isn’t one, so name one.

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                  Those that support Russia aren’t actually left wing they are just claiming to be. So I guess it depends on the definition of tankie.

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      How the fuck is chomky a tankie. Based on this evidence he’s clearly a lot of things, but calling him a tankie is ridiculous

      tankie once more clearly just getting used as a pejorative for anyone an anti-communist social democrat dislikes

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      i know i shouldn’t expect much from the users of a right wing circlejerk instance, but come on: are y’all seriously calling fucking chomsky a tankie now?

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        I am not right wing. Believe it or not it’s possible to be left leaning and not spew gibberish like “NATO made putin invade”, “NK is a vanguard against imperialism” and “everything I don’t like is a GIA psyop”.

        More so if for example you speak fluent russian, you’ve lived there for multiple years and you’ve studied the history of russian imperialism (be it in the form of the USSR or its current form).

        I wouldn’t say Chomsky is a tankie, but his involvement with US oligarchs and authoritarians does make one wonder…

        FYI, I consider tankies to be supporters of authoritarian state capitalism and the genocidal imperialist policies of such models.