Whether or not you consider it “disinfo,” doesn’t it smell rather like astroturf? Note that !europe@lemmy.dbzer0.com is one of the targeted communities.

Abridged from the original post.


cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/39655060

What they seem to have in common is:

  • Way more posts than comments.
  • Almost exclusively posting news articles.
  • The vast majority of the articles are critical of Russia or China.
  • Virtually always posting to the same few communities. Often there’s overlap in the communities the accounts target.
  • Consistent weekly output.
Username Start End
tardigrada@beehaw.org May 2022 Dec. 2024
0x815@feddit.de Apr. 2023 Jun. 2024
thelucky8@beehaw.org Apr. 2024 Jan. 2025
0x815@feddit.org Jun. 2024 Dec. 2024
Anyone@slrpnk.net Jan. 2025 Apr. 2025
@randomname@scribe.disroot.org Jan. 2025
@Hotznplotzn@lemmy.sdf.org Jan. 2025
@Scotty@scribe.disroot.org Aug. 2025
@Sepia@mander.xyz Nov. 2025
  • Phoenixz
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    3 months ago

    Maybe if either country’s government would behave like a bags of dicks, people wouldn’t have to be posting that stuff.

    China is committing ge oxide in uyghurs, Russia is committing genocide in Ukraine, and those two valid accusations are just the tip of the iceberg

    If you want less bad news about these two countries, it’s simple: just remove their dictators, install ab actual democracy, and have them starting to respect human rights. It wouldn’t be all needed, but it’d be a good start

    • davel [he/him]@lemmy.mlOP
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      3 months ago

      China is committing ge oxide in uyghurs

      No.

      Russia is committing genocide in Ukraine

      Also no.

      just remove their dictators

      Neither has a dictator. One has an oligarch installed by fellow oligarchs, just like the US & Canada do, while the other was democratically elected.

      install ab actual democracy

      One of them already has an actual democracy, while the other one has a bourgeois democracy, just like your country and mine do.

      have them starting to respect human rights.

      How about we get our own houses in order? Or have you forgotten about their complicity in an actual, ongoing genocide in occupied Palestine?

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        3 months ago

        … You really actually believe all this, don’t you?

        I’m just wondering options here. Mental illness, maybe? Lack of basic education? Paid shill? I mean, there are options to explain you, but none of them are very goo

        You use a post from a Chinese controlled media outlet to show that there really isn’t a genocide happening with the uyghurs, even when the rest of the word says there is? You prefer to believe the words of state media in a dictatorship over actual photo and video evidence? You prefer “good is bad, up is down” rhetoric over the actual testimonies of uyghurs themselves?

        Yeah, I’ll go with paid shill

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        No.

        Yes.

        Also no.

        Also yes.

        Neither has a dictator. One has an oligarch installed by fellow oligarchs, just like the US & Canada do, while the other was democratically elected.

        Both have dictators, as is evident by their absolute or near-absolute hold on political power.

        One of them already has an actual democracy, while the other one has a bourgeois democracy, just like your country and mine do.

        One has mock elections, the other has one party. Neither are a democracy, fairing even worse than a representative “democracy”.

        How about we get our own houses in order? Or have you forgotten about their complicity in an actual, ongoing genocide in occupied Palestine?

        Fuck no. You can hold others to account while also holding yourself. We are capable of working on multiple things at once, we don’t have to solve poverty before we can tackle the climate and so on and so forth.

        You can deny the genocide all you want, but it is ongoing in Xinjiang and will be fully realised in Ukraine if Russia’s territorial annexation is completed.

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          Hey, I’m back in Urumqi right now, still no genocide.

          Do you also think Portland is a warzone?

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            I love how so many different independent organizations have verified what’s happening to the uyghurs, and you’re like “I’m a German in Berlin, 1939, and I can’t see anything bad happening to the Jews!”

            You do understand that the Nazi camps weren’t exactly advertised to the people, just like China doesn’t really advertise the uyghur detention centers?

            You haven’t seen the photos? The videos?

            Or are you one of those “any evidence against my religious beliefs is forged!” types?

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              I’ve seen satellite photos of random warehouse they found on Google maps, circled in red that people who have never been here insist are concentration camps. That is the level of “evidence” we are dealing with here.

              German in Berlin

              If you were an american who spent months in the places Jewish people lived in 1939, befriended, drank with them, went skiing, etc, you’d certainly learn about their struggles.