Please forgive me…I’m over 30 and was never a clubber.

In a number of songs, women “get low”. In “Low”:

Shawty got low low low low low low low low

In “Belly Dancer”, they drop down and touch the ground;

Hey, ladies drop it down, just want to see you touch the ground

You ain’t even gotta drop down if you want to

What activity is being described here? What are these women doing?

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    lordosis

    Edit: I have no idea why the responses below have been taken over by pedants lacking in reading comprehension. Lordosis is the name for the behavior, the reflex, the posture, all the things. We’re taking about presenting the vagina for copulation here. That is what the songs are talking about. It’s not literal mating, but it’s sexually exciting. These behaviors are deeply embedded in the primitive levels of our brain. It’s even hypothesized that this is why we have butts at all.

    The part/whole phenomenon is called synecdoche and is extremely common in all forms of communication.

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      New word to me, thank you. And apparently, in animals which display that behavior, it is reflexive, not a voluntary action. But a point of interest from your article:

      Lordosis behavior is non-functional in humans, although lordosis-like positions can be observed in those being mounted from behind.

      So therefore, while twerking mimics lordosis, it’s really just dancing, albeit rather sexually.

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        We’re not talking about twerking. You are correct in twerking is a dance that does in fact present the person sexually. That is its appeal.

        It is the bending over and sticking out your ass that is lordosis.

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          No. That is not lordosis. That is a simulation of lordosis. You are confusing a metaphor for the literal thing.

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      I mean it very loosely approximates the appearance of lordosis as defined in the article you linked. But it isn’t in fact lordosis, which makes the resulting reply chain pretty unbearable.

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        It is in fact lordosis. Lordosis is the posture and the presenting for copulation.

        I can’t imagine why you’d say loosely approximates. Bending over and sticking out your ass is literally presenting of the vagina.

        The fact is human behavior is more complex and is not as simple as a cat in heat should not need to be stated.

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          Bending over and sticking out your ass is literally presenting of the vagina.

          Bending over and sticking out your ass is literally NOT LORDISIS and only roughly resembles what your cited source describes as lordosis, which for example, specifies an involuntary response that lowers the chest to the ground.

          I’m just going from the fucking source you provided. Feel free to provide another.

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      Yes this is partially true but when you get low you usually also spread your legs, which has the secondary effect of flashing whatever you happen to be wearing (or otherwise). It’s very difficult to dance and get low keeping the knees together.

      So my point is, that there is more than just lordosis

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        The entirety of sexual presenting behavior is lordosis.

        So no, there is not more than lordosis here. By definition.

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              Cause OP was asking about getting low while dancing. Y’all took a hard right to another subject.

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                What other subject?

                This is the exact, scientifically supported answer to ops question.

                Lordosis is the name for the behavior the women are engaging in.

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                  Are you a bit or just never go out? If you would get out more you would realize not everything has to be scientific. It’s just dancing and people do it cause it’s fun. Dudes twerk too, how does that fit the lordosis definition?

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                    Op asked a question. Root post answered the question. I added the scientific support.

                    If you don’t think that there is a huge amount of scientific interest in human sexual behavior, you are the one who needs to get out more.

                    We’re also not talking about twerking. That is a dance that is appealing because of it’s similarity to the mating behavior that is the answer to ops question.

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              Because it makes it seem like you are thinking of the people involved first and foremost as objects of biological study, and that you are the kind of person to whom that sort of thinking comes most naturally.

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      You realize that lordosis is a neurological reflex, not a sexual position, right? The position lordosis causes in animals may resemble similar positions in humans, but they are not the same thing.