• AA5B@lemmy.world
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    I doubt it. Bump key requires a tool and a skill. The bar is not high but there is one. My understanding is most burglaries are impulse or opportunity. Is something open or unlocked? Can I break it with my boot or a nearby rock?

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      Doubt what? A proven issue?

      A bump key requires zero skill and a set of 10 will net you around 90% of current doors. And skill? It’s a 30 second video to watch, if you even need it. You push the key in and turn at the same time. If it works it works, if it doesn’t you move on. Even a trained professional can’t get into every single door, it’s about ease. If it doesn’t work, they move on.

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        1 year ago

        I doubt it’s used frequently to break and enter. Burglaries are much more opportunistic

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          It’s used very frequently…. It’s hard to track though since it leaves no trace if done right. Most people would just think they left their door unlocked.

          But of course very few people are going to admit that either.

          I seriously don’t know why I’m arguing with you or why you think that your opinion matters.

          It’s a known issue, simple as that. They are illegal to own without a locksmith license for these things exact reasons.

          Ignore facts if you want mate.

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              He bought lockpicks…. Not a bump key…. Said that they couldn’t use it to pick their nose…. And it’s one persons opinion…. Lord have mercy.

              They work, and if you use the right terms you’ll find plenty of supporting evidence.

              Try using bumpkey instead of lockpicks for starters……

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                I never disagreed with whether bump keys could be used, just whether they are.

                There are lots of ways you can get sophisticated to break into pretty much any home, to get around various security doors, locks, alarms, dogs, cameras: a homeowner can never keep out a determined sophisticated burglar. I’m arguing that those are extremely rare and would need sufficient payoff, so it’s also not worth worrying about for most of us.

                The bar might be low on using a bump key, and I do see plenty of scare stories in the media about how available they are, but none that I read ventured to say how frequently they’re actually used.

                However actual crime stats continue to say you need to worry about the basics, and bump keys are either not mentioned as a frequently used tool or are not frequently used. I’m not claiming my house is secure against them; it’s not. I’m saying that if I get burgled, it’s much more likely there was a door open, or a door kicked in, or a window broken. The cause will be the blinking lights visible through the windows indicating potentially valuable electronics, and it will likely be a smash and grab. No bump key involved, no finesse of any kind