cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ml/post/32212238
By MEE staff Published date: 24 June 2025 22:12 BST
Last update:~17:20 EDT"CNN reported on Tuesday that an initial assessment of the strikes by the US Defence Intelligence Agency was that the main components of Iran’s nuclear programme were intact and likely only set back by months.
This flies in the face of Trump saying that the US air strikes “completely and totally obliterated” Iran’s nuclear programme. The White House trumpeted its bombing of Iran’s Fordow, Isfahan and Natanz enrichment complexes as a major military feat that surprised Iran."
…was still leaked to CNN by an anonymous, low-level loser in the intelligence community,” White House press secretary Karoline Leavitt told CNN in a statement.
USA has become such a fucking joke…
The way they talk and run the government is like kids playing with this:
Except the kids have horrific parents and think screaming and throwing pans is how adulting works.
Untold millions just so Donald could change the narrative and appear macho for two seconds.
He’s been mad about the failure of his parade, he had to take it out on someone.
Y’all just don’t get Trump, even after all these years? To his mind, there was no failure. The parade was a wild success. He literally cannot think anything differently. That’s NPD for ya.
OTOH, he can notice that there wasn’t enough praise and admiration. That is what is eating his skull.
Yeah, Trump hasn’t forgotten how every news network universally praised him when he dropped the MOAB on Afghanistan in 2017.
But now he’s mad cause “his” ceasefire didn’t work.
Before immediately going full TACO
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That was a day. A few hours, at least
Iranians:
The Iranians would have been terminally stupid if they hadn’t moved out anything that’s not bolted down (and even some that is) from the known locations in the days before the attacks. The IDF was openly demanding the US to bomb those sites, so they knew they were in the crosshairs. And if the only wrapped it up and buried the stuff in the sand somewhere.
The US might have damaged the location, but believing they had in any significant form damaged the program is moot. On the contrary, Iran now has the irrefutable proof that the US does not care even about their own secret services report that Iran had given up (or at least was not actively working on) on the bomb. Now they have the incentive to actually build it so they can use it as a deterrent and if needed, in self-defence.
Almost as though the Iranians built a bunker deep inside a mountain for this exact contingency.
Perhaps someone should have asked the question “do we have a weapon that can hit a nuclear facility under a mountain?” BEFORE blowing millions trying to bomb a nuclear facility under a mountain. World is run by a bunch of morons.
I’m pretty sure that the military understands in general that the bunker busters don’t really work all that well.
I think the more relevant factors in this calculation are (1) B2 is a technology from the 1980s, (2) B2 still looks fricken cool, (3) Tomahawk was also a big deal in the 1980s, (4) Israel already did all of the work suppressing air defenses, and finally (5) the big parade the week before kinda sucked.
Almost like the Trump admin is a nonstop authoritarian propaganda machine.
B2 looks cool AF
The spectacle is more important than the consequences.
There are engineers, smarter than both of us combined, that worked on these weapons. These are problems smart men have worked on for decades.
Given the expense, and rare usage, we only had a few dozen. How would you test such weapons? And this is key, without the intelligence of their effectiveness getting out. People are going to notice when you blow up fucking mountains.
In any case, we’ll gain some solid intelligence from this mission. Not that I supported it, quite the contrary, but we’ll learn a thing or three.
You are not smart for making fun of this thing. But if it makes you feel better?
I think it would be trivial for the US to bury some bunkers in the desert, choke them full of cameras and sensors and test their bombs on them.
There is no reason why this kind of weapon would be needed to be “life tested” to understand its effects.
Systems that directly compete with defensive systems, weapons on soldiers, tactics and so on need to be tested in actual combat sure.
The only thjng the US learned here is that Iran is not capable of shooting down B2s, which isnt all that surprising.
Im sure these weapons were designed to be quite effective at what they were intended to do, which is almost assuredly not blowing up mountains.
If they claim they destroyed everything in the first round, they don’t have a reason to go back.
Bingo. “Mission accomplished.”
“We killed you!”
“Not so much.”
Face saved all the way around.
And if you gotta fuck around, this wasn’t too bad. So far.
