• Solumbran@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    The argument is basically “I find it unlikely so it cannot be true”, which isn’t very convincing. Not saying that the conclusion is right or wrong, but the logic is flawed.

    • afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.worldOP
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      1 year ago

      That is not an accurate summary of the points made by the article. Besides which the default position is that he didn’t exist, it is up to the Jesus was real crowd to present their evidence. Which is basically a century later someone noticed that there was a group calling themselves Christians.

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        1 year ago

        Virtually every historian of the time period, religious and secular, agree that Jesus the man did exist.

        • afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.worldOP
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          1 year ago

          Are statements about history true because they reflect what happened or because people at a later date said so?

          If argument ad populum does not work why would you use it instead of just presenting your evidence for a historical Jesus? Me personally I noticed that people lower themselves to logical fallacies when they don’t have facts.

            • afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.worldOP
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              1 year ago

              Could just answer the questions instead of depending on someone else to do the work.

              Question 1: Are statements about history true because they reflect what happened or because people at a later date said so?

              Question 2: If argument ad populum does not work why would you use it instead of just presenting your evidence for a historical Jesus?

              Pretty simple questions, maybe just answer them.

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                1 year ago

                Because you’re obviously not interesting in actually learning anything, you just want to argue.

                A) citing scholarly consensus is not an argument ad populum. So you’re not even correct in asserting a logical fallacy.

                B) that link has the sources dipshit. Read them if you want. Or stick your fingers in your ears and keep screaming like a child. Doesn’t make a difference to me. I don’t give a shit about you.

                • afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.worldOP
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                  1 year ago

                  Because you’re obviously not interesting in actually learning anything, you just want to argue.

                  Attack the argument not the person.

                  citing scholarly consensus is not an argument ad populum. So you’re not even correct in asserting a logical fallacy.

                  I see. Which logical fallacy did you do, was it argument from authority?

                  that link has the sources dipshit.

                  Attack the argument not the person.

                  Read them if you want. Or stick your fingers in your ears and keep screaming like a child.

                  Attack the argument not the person.

                  I don’t give a shit about you.

                  Clearly, 8 comments in one thread towards me. With 5 personal attacks.

                  Now, again. Because a lot of smart people say something does that make it true?

            • afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.worldOP
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              1 year ago

              Again. If the majority of people say something is true does that make it true? What if the majority of people are really really freaken smart, does that make it true?

              Do logical fallacies not apply if the people involved are scholars?