• DarkFuture@lemmy.world
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    4 days ago

    Nazi platform.

    Make sure to stop clicking on Nazi links when people post them. No matter how bad you want to see someone “prank” someone or cry about their perceived persecution.

    We need to stop making a Nazi platform important enough that it hurts democratic politicians when they lose access because of the Nazi in charge of said platform.

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      4 days ago

      and if you absolutely must see something on twitter, use xcancel instead.

      its a frontend for the same content, that doesn’t add views or ad revenue to twitter.

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        You’ve called the good guys here the nazis and let the actual authoritarians off the hook scott-free.

        Only if you ignore that Twitter is owned by a nazi, and that the person above didn’t say anything about letting, the authoritarian regime in turkey off the hook.

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                No? I don’t like lots of people, and only the far right fascist supporters, and nazis, and nazi simps I call nazis. I didn’t call elon, Hitler. So go stroke your ego elsewhere

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                  You: “I don’t just call anyone I don’t like nazi or hitler!”

                  Also you: proceeds to call everyone I don’t like nazi or hitler

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                    Why would anyone bother having a conversation with someone like you who lies about the tiniest most pedantic details? You could’ve easily conceded the point that they didn’t call Elon Hitler but nope, gotta add “nazi or hitler” to make sure I’m right! Any conversation with someone like you is going to be fruitless and it’s pretty obvious you need to touch grass.

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                    Also you: *proceeds to call everyone I don’t like nazi or hitler

                    The fucking kind of mental gymnastics are those? Jfc try harder buddy.

                    Yes I call nazis nazis, but not everyone I dislike is a nazi, nor do I call them that hahaha.

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                I can give you 10 people I don’t like and only one of them I know definitely to be a nazi.

                That one guy is Elon Musk.

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            Perhaps you have not been following the news. Elon Musk owns Twitter these days.

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        I know they would comply just as well, as I stated in another comment, because they are a private platform, but actually in this case the presence on Bluesky of the Imamoglu account in perfect condition with 129K followers proves that something else must be the case here.

        Also, X didn’t give a shit about complying in Brazil.

        Nah, Nazi platform does nazi stuff, it’s that simple.

        You can come down the mirror now.

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          Bluesky blocked his account in turkey btw, just like X did. Bluesky have made no mention of challenging the legal request in court like X have though.

          Iirc the Brazil situation was the first time anything like this had happened since Musk bought Twitter. They definitely didn’t handle it correctly, but they’ve clearly learned since then. Now they comply with legal requests and challenge them through the courts. Would you prefer they just folded every time and didn’t challenge, like all the others? Like Bluesky?

          Good work on calling me a nazi though! I did nazi that coming!!

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            The fact that Bluesky didn’t post about it doesn’t mean they did not challenge.

            Also, a file on Google Drive is not a petition submitted. There is nowhere a letter signed or stamped as received.

            You know you can pay a law firm for drafting a letter and then not send it, right?

            There are too many conclusions you are coming to without knowing the actual facts.

            I judge what happened for sure.

            And for sure both of them complied, officially asked to or not, to obscuring a political prisoner’s account (and dozens of other activists as well, by the way).

            Also, regarding X, this is old news, from the end of March.

            Also, are you X? Like, the platform, its personification? Because if you are not, then I didn’t call you a nazi. You can go clean your snot from your neckbeard.

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      Ekrem is Kemalist, which is very similar to a literal Nazi, but in the current world I’ll even agree he’s kinda better than many other variants.

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          The dude is trying to delete Mustafa Kemal’s name everywhere, claiming he is a kemalist is the equivelant of calling Stalin a nazi,

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            It is from a point of view of political science. He hates Ataturk but that doesn’t prevent him to use his methods.

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              he isnt comparable the toenail of Mustafa Kemal. All he does is selling off state properties and factories, polar opposite of what Ataturk did.

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                That’s an emotional reply. However he did fucked up the country pretty bad. But he uses Ataturk’s methods to stay in power, which apparently he studied them well. Of course it doesn’t describe him alone, he’s a combination of an Islamist, a centrist and a Kemalist. More or like what an islamokemalist is.

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          Ah yes, I can see how you can see the guy who used religion all his political career to his advantage and shat on the constitution just so he can stay in power longer, as a Kemalist.

          /s

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            Like legit, the guy hates Ataturk’s guts, yet these idiots claim that he is a Kemalist.

            I want what they are smoking. Must be some pretty good shit.

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            As I said, it’s a baseline for Turkey. Relative to that baseline he’s almost an Islamist, yep. Relative to it he was also a liberal initially.

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          I know, it’s basically impossible to be a politician in Turkey and not some kind of that.

          If you look at most Sunni societies, their political ideology optimal point is simple - behead all the infidels, take all that belongs to Muslims, and that’d be all that Muslims claim, and institute Sharia law.

          Young Turks and Kemal managed to transform that into a viable nationalist ideology. To be centered on Turks instead of Sunnis.

          No secular regime in a Middle-Eastern Muslim country after them has managed to achieve that.

          So - Erdogan’s Muslim part in ideology is about equating Muslim and Ottoman, not about returning to the initially described system.

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        Ah yes, the guy who had no ill will towards anybody, tried to unify people to the best of his ability, and provided cheaper food for the poor… is a Nazi!

        Holy shit, the sheer stupidity needed to come up with such a take!

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          Ah yes, the guy who had no ill will towards anybody, tried to unify people to the best of his ability, and provided cheaper food for the poor… is a Nazi!

          You mean Mustafa Kemal had no ill will when his army was massacring 200k Armenians in Kars and further during Turkish-Armenian war of 1920? Or burning Smyrna with its inhabitants?

          The best argument in favor of any pessimism about future is how Westerners conditioned to know that Hitler is bad, very bad, praise Mustafa Kemal Atatürk. BTW, in kinda similar terms to the popular praise of Hitler in English-speaking countries before the war.

          As a person he was absolutely not better, however he was intelligent enough to pick achievable goals.