• Oberyn@lemmy.world
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    7 days ago

    That miyazaki quote’s out of context . It’s not referencing genAI , it’s used to liken his disabled friend to a cgi monster . Shouldn’t have to explain how fucked that is . If you’re gonna criticise AI in art , don’t spread misinfo

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      7 days ago

      I just watched the video in question, and this is an entirely backwards take. Miyazaki is saying the animation is an insult to the pain of those with disablities like his friend, not disparaging people with disabilities.

      https://youtu.be/ngZ0K3lWKRc

      It isn’t specifically about generative ai, but he is talking about art (animations) made through machine-learning being a cold mimicry of real human efforts. I think the comparison is pretty fair and it applies in both instances.

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        7 days ago

        If you lꝏk at a monster and 1st thing comes to your brain’s disabled person , there’s some thing wrong with you

        Let’s not take every thing miyazaki says at face value . Ffs he compared swiping gestures on ipads to masturbation . This tendency he seems to have with every new technology being The Worst Thing Ever , ⦅bogus|overly hyperbolic) comparisons|catastrophising (“end of times” in reference to desire to create genAI art technology⦆ , think the disability comparison definitely qualifies

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          You’re still missing the point Miyazaki is making. His point is that such a crude depiction of an organism with thoughts and feelings is an insult to actual living thinking beings. The animation might not be alive or sentient, but it still represents a life form that is sentient, and creating such animations that depict sentient beings as incapable as the animation might evoke undesirable feelings in somebody watching that animation, even if they know that it is merely a 2D digital animation composed of bits and pixels that does not have any psychological traits.

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          That isn’t really what he means though. Miyazaki knew this was AI generated and knows what it means. They explain the machine which they sought to create art like humans do ‘learned’ how to move and that ‘it doesn’t feel pain’ and called it ‘dancing’. Then they say it is creepy and could be used for a zombie game.

          Miyazaki then states ‘whoever creates this stuff has no idea what pain is’.

          That is the criticism he appears to be levelling. The demonstration of such horror without an understanding pain robs it of human connection.

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            6 days ago

            I wonder if he would pass the Turing test. He seems like he’s just a Luddite (yes yes luddites were the good guys, I’m using the current meaning)

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      It’s completely in context. We have the complete context. It’s in response to an AI generated walk cycle, and he specifically called out the technology as something he never wants to work with. The people he spoke to said they wanted to make an AI that can draw like humans do, which is how generative AI is described.

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      Yeah he is just being a huge asshole in this presentation, basically shitting on all art that plays on reactions of horror to uncanny movements, there’s no meaningful commentary on technology here.