That is not the right conclusion. We don’t have a protest culture or union membership to call for or protect protesters, or a centralized population and obvious protest spot. I was talking to an Argentine friend of mine about how it works in Argentina - a handful of big unions who unite and call strikes/protests including the bus drivers who bring moat people to and from work, a centralized population, and an international airport with 1 main highway that can be blocked. Not that all those things are needed to protest effectively, but America has none of that. Hell, we don’t even have healthcare if we’re not employed. We’re kinda starting from scratch.
We’ve also been cursed with nuclear family structure. We have almost no support networks unless you have the money to pay for child care and the like (you don’t). Capitalism has us by the balls.
We have to start somewhere, and the protests will grow steadily as people become energized, the administration’s crimes grow and claim more victims, and people warm to the idea of protesting.
The real danger will be in the summer of 2026. They can’t allow the Democrats to flip either chamber, and take over legislative and investigative responsibilities, so they will do ANYTHING to stop the mid-term election. Protests will be huge by then, and he will instigate violence (perhaps by using his Jan 6 goons, who owe him), then send in authorities to use more violence to suppress the violence. That will give him the excuse to declare Martial Law, and suspend elections until peace is restored. Since he cintrols the peace, that will never happen, and we’ll skate right past 2028 without a presidential election.
People will scream, but the loudest voices will take up residency at the new 30,000 bed facility in Guantanamo Bay.
We have to start somewhere, and the protests will grow steadily as people become energized, the administration’s crimes grow and claim more victims, and people warm to the idea of protesting.
aw, that’s so cute that you think this will change anything
While I’m also frustrated by the apparent apathy among Americans, we’ve only been under this admin for two months. In Hungary, Serbia and Turkey the admins have been around for much longer than that and the realities and consequences of oppressive government have had time to fully sink in.
That said, I try to be optimistic but it’s very difficult. Many sane Americans are behaving like an already defeated people, and the rest of the country either don’t care or actually cheer for it.
And once this admin entrenches itself, it’ll be extremely difficult to unroot. These are some of the richest and most powerful people in the world, with the world’s most advanced military and massive and heavily armed police force to back them up. And that’s not including all the nutjob private militias that will likely get deputized at some point. We’re already seeing them label the opposition as terrorists, where do you think we’ll be in a year?
I want to keep fighting but I’m not convinced enough of us take this as the very serious threat that it is. And not just to Americans, but to the whole world.
I feel for ya. I hope things start to turn around down there but it seems like that will only happen if the people unite. Everyone needs to go on general strike. Shut everything down!
You don’t need to physically attend protests to help.
Spreading anti government facts and info all the time, talking to people to open their eyes about the situation is a great help and will do a lot more good than nothing.
Literally the enemy has an army of bots spreading misinformation. If everyone who said they can’t do anything to fight back realized they have a very powerful weapon that is low effort, trump would have never been elected.
Actually, the cash app guy IS. The problem is I do. I run a catering kitchen with literally on other person. I do not have time to vet and train a replacement.
And I’m getting shit for it. “What’s your cash app”, Cool, when I lose this job, are they gonna pay NEXT month’s rent? Cause finding a new one and making bills on time certainly isn’t happening.
Yeah, I’m lashing out at them (and accidentally one other person) because I know what they’re doing
Now I’m being accused of “moving the goalposts”.
“I can’t make it but I wish I could”
“Here’s money now come”
“The reasons I can’t make it aren’t just money”
“Find someone to do your job for you in two weeks. What’s your personal info so I can send money”
“Can you please understand I’m not in a situation where that’s possible”
"No, I have money (for one month’s rent tops), you just hate your country and won’t fight for it
Ya know, this same site that talks about capitalism, people struggling to make ends meet and living paycheck to paycheck, and I’m being made to feel like shit by one in particular person who apparently doesn’t have money worries, simple solutions to everything, and thinks I’m moving goal posts when I try to explain my situation and why it isn’t simple, all the while pointing out that as a country, we lack critical thinking skills, demand simple answers to everything, and simple solutions.
And I’m being responded to with exactly that, by someone fricken gatekeeping the fact that they have enough disposable income to pay my rent
For a month. I doubt I’d see them next month
Fuck just trying to give support though. Gotta love feeling worse than I already do.
Cool. Pay my rent for me so I can, cause homelessness is illegal now.
You’re proving MY point. Nuance and not jumping to the simplest conclusions is a severe problem we have in this country. You hear something you disagree with and immediately rack it up to "this person is bad because of (insert confirmation bias here)
You have zero clue the situation others are in. Take a seat.
There are literally two of us that work at my kitchen. We’re both needed.
It’s more than money. I’d need an extra set of hands to cover me, a set that’s trained on our menu and able to feed over 1200 people, as I don’t work a line, I work banquets, parties and wedding ect
Nuance. I keep pleasing for it. Not everyone can be at every protest.
So yes, as I said, it kills me to not be there, but like many people, I’m literally not in a position to
Your workplace has 2 weeks to find someone to cover that shift. Tell them to look into a contracting agency and grab a person for a day. What’s your cashapp?
Two weeks isn’t enough time to train someone to handle over 1200 people and our menu. I do not work a conventional kitchen, as I already said.
Stop acting like it’s a simple solution just because you think you can throw money at me. You’re just compounding how shitty I already feel about being in a situation I cannot control.
Back off. I make it to meetings and protests when I can and have stated multiple times I can’t this time, and you are being completely obstuse about it.
Moving the goalposts makes it seem like you never wanted to go in the first place. Or maybe you’ve been beaten down by the system so much that you think this one day at your job is more important than the government being dismantled?
I’m not American and don’t really understand your system. What I would like to say is, being in a situation where you can’t get a day off or be sick (because thats the same problem) is not healthy. I hope you find a job where you can actually take a personal day once in a while.
That’s partly because the media is owned by the billionaires and has no interest in portraying the poor as having power over their destiny . Actually it may be entirely that.
Im going to say doubtful. Seeing the size of other protests in other countries, it really shows how little murica cares that they are going fascist
That is not the right conclusion. We don’t have a protest culture or union membership to call for or protect protesters, or a centralized population and obvious protest spot. I was talking to an Argentine friend of mine about how it works in Argentina - a handful of big unions who unite and call strikes/protests including the bus drivers who bring moat people to and from work, a centralized population, and an international airport with 1 main highway that can be blocked. Not that all those things are needed to protest effectively, but America has none of that. Hell, we don’t even have healthcare if we’re not employed. We’re kinda starting from scratch.
We’ve also been cursed with nuclear family structure. We have almost no support networks unless you have the money to pay for child care and the like (you don’t). Capitalism has us by the balls.
We have to start somewhere, and the protests will grow steadily as people become energized, the administration’s crimes grow and claim more victims, and people warm to the idea of protesting.
The real danger will be in the summer of 2026. They can’t allow the Democrats to flip either chamber, and take over legislative and investigative responsibilities, so they will do ANYTHING to stop the mid-term election. Protests will be huge by then, and he will instigate violence (perhaps by using his Jan 6 goons, who owe him), then send in authorities to use more violence to suppress the violence. That will give him the excuse to declare Martial Law, and suspend elections until peace is restored. Since he cintrols the peace, that will never happen, and we’ll skate right past 2028 without a presidential election.
People will scream, but the loudest voices will take up residency at the new 30,000 bed facility in Guantanamo Bay.
aw, that’s so cute that you think this will change anything
While I’m also frustrated by the apparent apathy among Americans, we’ve only been under this admin for two months. In Hungary, Serbia and Turkey the admins have been around for much longer than that and the realities and consequences of oppressive government have had time to fully sink in.
That said, I try to be optimistic but it’s very difficult. Many sane Americans are behaving like an already defeated people, and the rest of the country either don’t care or actually cheer for it.
And once this admin entrenches itself, it’ll be extremely difficult to unroot. These are some of the richest and most powerful people in the world, with the world’s most advanced military and massive and heavily armed police force to back them up. And that’s not including all the nutjob private militias that will likely get deputized at some point. We’re already seeing them label the opposition as terrorists, where do you think we’ll be in a year?
I want to keep fighting but I’m not convinced enough of us take this as the very serious threat that it is. And not just to Americans, but to the whole world.
The AOC and Bernie rallies should bring some hope. This is a step up compared to weeks before. Momentum is gaining.
An octogenarian and a woman who half the country has been trained to hate and dismiss.
I wish I shared your hope, but to me, that’s not enough.
I felt less hope weeks prior. Movements are small but are increasing. Its been pretty much mood swings.
I feel for ya. I hope things start to turn around down there but it seems like that will only happen if the people unite. Everyone needs to go on general strike. Shut everything down!
Those countries are much smaller and many have more robust public transportation to reach said protests.
I have a 12 hour day on the 5th and it kills me not to be able to go
We’d all be better off with more critical thinking and nuisance in our lives instead of jumping to the first conclusion that reaffirms our bias
You don’t need to physically attend protests to help. Spreading anti government facts and info all the time, talking to people to open their eyes about the situation is a great help and will do a lot more good than nothing.
Literally the enemy has an army of bots spreading misinformation. If everyone who said they can’t do anything to fight back realized they have a very powerful weapon that is low effort, trump would have never been elected.
I have already stated not only to you but others that I already am.
Stop talking down to me. I’m too old for this shit.
Take the hint and back the fuck off.
I simply answered to your post, I am not aware nor interested in your entire post history nor are most people going to be. Relax.
No, you’re demanding personal information and telling me what to do for things you have no understanding of
I’ll not tell you to back off again.
Calm down, man. They aren’t telling you what to do, and are just replying to your reply comment from the other persons comment.
Your comments are starting to seem overly defensive, if you don’t want to take a day off to protest, then don’t, and just don’t reply.
I’m being accused, even by you right now, and being a liar
The fuck
And it genuinely pisses me off
So yeah. Fuck showing support. I’ll just see myself out.
Actually, the cash app guy IS. The problem is I do. I run a catering kitchen with literally on other person. I do not have time to vet and train a replacement.
And I’m getting shit for it. “What’s your cash app”, Cool, when I lose this job, are they gonna pay NEXT month’s rent? Cause finding a new one and making bills on time certainly isn’t happening.
Yeah, I’m lashing out at them (and accidentally one other person) because I know what they’re doing
Now I’m being accused of “moving the goalposts”.
“I can’t make it but I wish I could”
“Here’s money now come”
“The reasons I can’t make it aren’t just money”
“Find someone to do your job for you in two weeks. What’s your personal info so I can send money”
“Can you please understand I’m not in a situation where that’s possible”
"No, I have money (for one month’s rent tops), you just hate your country and won’t fight for it
Ya know, this same site that talks about capitalism, people struggling to make ends meet and living paycheck to paycheck, and I’m being made to feel like shit by one in particular person who apparently doesn’t have money worries, simple solutions to everything, and thinks I’m moving goal posts when I try to explain my situation and why it isn’t simple, all the while pointing out that as a country, we lack critical thinking skills, demand simple answers to everything, and simple solutions.
And I’m being responded to with exactly that, by someone fricken gatekeeping the fact that they have enough disposable income to pay my rent
For a month. I doubt I’d see them next month
Fuck just trying to give support though. Gotta love feeling worse than I already do.
Maybe I really am too old anymore.
… Yo, my guy, no one’s attacking you. Maybe get some meditation in your life.
You’re proving their point. Take the day off.
Cool. Pay my rent for me so I can, cause homelessness is illegal now.
You’re proving MY point. Nuance and not jumping to the simplest conclusions is a severe problem we have in this country. You hear something you disagree with and immediately rack it up to "this person is bad because of (insert confirmation bias here)
You have zero clue the situation others are in. Take a seat.
How much do you make for that 12 hours? Do you have cash app?
There are literally two of us that work at my kitchen. We’re both needed.
It’s more than money. I’d need an extra set of hands to cover me, a set that’s trained on our menu and able to feed over 1200 people, as I don’t work a line, I work banquets, parties and wedding ect
Nuance. I keep pleasing for it. Not everyone can be at every protest.
So yes, as I said, it kills me to not be there, but like many people, I’m literally not in a position to
Your workplace has 2 weeks to find someone to cover that shift. Tell them to look into a contracting agency and grab a person for a day. What’s your cashapp?
Two weeks isn’t enough time to train someone to handle over 1200 people and our menu. I do not work a conventional kitchen, as I already said.
Stop acting like it’s a simple solution just because you think you can throw money at me. You’re just compounding how shitty I already feel about being in a situation I cannot control.
Back off. I make it to meetings and protests when I can and have stated multiple times I can’t this time, and you are being completely obstuse about it.
Moving the goalposts makes it seem like you never wanted to go in the first place. Or maybe you’ve been beaten down by the system so much that you think this one day at your job is more important than the government being dismantled?
I’m not American and don’t really understand your system. What I would like to say is, being in a situation where you can’t get a day off or be sick (because thats the same problem) is not healthy. I hope you find a job where you can actually take a personal day once in a while.
I won’t be taking a seat for I am standing!
On Lemmy with apparently no idea what it’s like to pay rent and bills.
Go you!
Don’t be a hypocrite.
One is a actual fact, the other a sarcastic jab.
Your response is an attempt to act like they’re both the same.
You just want to fight to cope with being incorrect, like a typical American. You’re not getting it from me. Search elsewhere.
Don’t be a naysayer. Show up and apply peer pressure to others to stand up against fascism with you!
Im not american, so I cannot show up. But I will be supportive of anyone doing so!
Is a big trip
That’s partly because the media is owned by the billionaires and has no interest in portraying the poor as having power over their destiny . Actually it may be entirely that.