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Proportional representation doesn’t just change how many seats a party wins, but where.

Whether you’re a Liberal in rural Alberta or a Conservative in downtown Toronto, you get the representation you vote for.

That’s why we love PR-it bridges our divides.

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  • Subscript5676
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    2 days ago

    Is there anywhere else that’s switched to proportional representation, run-off voting, or similar from FPTP?

    https://www.fairvote.ca/how-democracies-adopted-proportional-representation/

    How does it affect things like regional representation

    https://www.fairvote.ca/localrepresentation/

    For example, if we go with MMP, https://www.fairvote.ca/mixed-member-proportional/

    If you prefer a video format, https://youtu.be/D3guVBhKmDc

    Seems like it creates instances where the candidate from some ridings gets a seat with fewer votes than the other candidate.

    Not too sure what you mean by this, but maybe MMP would give you an idea as to what would happen, and whether the scenario you’re thinking of would actually be possible? Lemme know.

    I think the urban/rural divide is only going to get worse as technology leads to more migration to urban areas even though it’s the rural population that’s taking care of the fundamentals in our economy.

    I don’t really believe that technology is the leading factor to the migration, but economic factors are. This isn’t to say that our farms aren’t profitable (I believe they are and should be), but there simply are more options of work in urban areas. Given that farms take up a lot of space, population ends up being sparse, and so do economic opportunities. It doesn’t have to stay that way of course, perhaps we could rethink how rural life works, e.g. rural Japan, but that’s not only a change in culture but likely also a multi-year work, so I digress.

    PR isn’t one electoral system but more so a principle that some systems follow. So it makes more sense to talk about the different systems that implement PR, and see how they can work for us, or if we can give it a bit of a twist so that it can work for us.

    Fairvote has another proposed system that aims at the rural/urban divide: https://www.fairvote.ca/rural-urban-proportional/

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      1 day ago

      https://www.fairvote.ca/localrepresentation/

      I see it a bit. An entire city will still get representatives from that city, without being down at a riding level. Would they do the same for large rural regions? Would Barrie ON be a 1 seat city, or would it be part of a greater rural region?

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        1 day ago

        Depends on which one of the flavours we’re talking about. I’m not an expert by any means, but my understanding is that, in general, we could go with the urban/rural approach by breaking up the city into smaller voting districts to reach some kind of acceptable balance in both the population across the city, and the number of MLAs across the region, just to somewhat balance out the urban and rural voices. How big should the rural regions be? I don’t know, cause it’ll be up to whatever census data that we know about the region.

        That said though, I never realized it but Barrie is somewhat special from what I can find online, in that it’s politically independent from the Simcoe county. So perhaps it can just continue to be independent from the county? I’m honestly not sure about what being politically independent actually entail.