• surph_ninja@lemmy.world
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    10 hours ago

    Facts don’t stop being facts when a Russian says them. If they’re factually stating the sequence of events, it doesn’t change anything.

    • Empricorn@feddit.nl
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      Lies don’t become true just because you keep saying “facts”. The Russian propaganda (that you’re parroting) is the untrue part, not the events themselves. Ukraine defending itself against Russia before and during their violent, illegal invasion is not an “expansion” and has nothing to do with NATO. Full stop.

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        9 hours ago

        I would go one further. Ukraine trying to join NATO is not a valid reason for an invasion. In fact, I can’t think of any valid reason for an invasion. Invading a country is wrong.

        Maybe Ukraine wants to join NATO because they share a border with a gigantic country that wants to conquer them.

        • rockerface 🇺🇦@lemm.ee
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          The amusing part is the invasion actually got Finland to join NATO, which, to my knowledge, did not have prior plans to do so.

          If the goal of the invasion was to prevent NATO expanding to russian borders, they’ve already failed at it.