I’m just going to skip ahead, because the earlier parts I feel like are just a rehash of the part you’re skipping over.
“You haven’t spent enough time thinking about gender”
Not what I said.
I said you should think about your attitude around it. You should think about why you feel you need to be derogatory about it.
Its a pointless thing to be mean about. If its how someone feels, its how someone feels. If its someone being a troll, just being generally polite and considerate and not needing to shove your opinion on them or others is not going to feed troll behavior.
What I’m suggesting you reflect on is why you’re being demeaning about it, rather than just acknowledging and moving on.
Because it trivializes an issue I believe is serious?
They may consider it serious too.
So you’re trivializing others based on your perception that its trivializing. Seems kind of a shitty thing to do.
Because it’s resulted in an instance regarding any disagreement with the idea as ban-worthy thoughtcrime?
Its kind of been the rule forever there, basically the basis the entire instance was founded on. So… Yeah. Why is that a surprise?
Okay? I feel that dragons aren’t a gender. I didn’t go and shove this in Drag’s face, nor, for that matter, in Ada’s face.
I haven’t commented on anything related to the mod/admin actions until just above, if you notice. Just comments in this thread. Do I think it was overstepping? Yes.
Do I also think you’re being kind of a dick? Also yes.
Why are my feelings on this invalid?
You’re basically outright saying that people couldn’t possibly exist who feel different on the inside. Its just a different sense of self for them, which neither you - nor I for that matter - understand.
Your opinion and mine don’t mean jack shit. Just like individual opinions about someone’s ability to be transgendered don’t mean jack shit. There is science behind being transgender - and its been set back already by decades (and likely centuries) due to conservative shitheads. If they hadn’t, maybe there would be more scientific exploration of this aspect. I have no idea.
But what I do know is, unless its scientifically proven this can’t be, or its still a possibility.
Some people consider race-mixing serious, that doesn’t mean that I have to treat their considerations with equal respect.
Its kind of been the rule forever there, basically the basis the entire instance was founded on. So… Yeah. Why is that a surprise?
Didn’t realize the basis of the instance was that dragons were real.
I haven’t commented on anything related to the mod/admin actions until just above, if you notice. Just comments in this thread. Do I think it was overstepping? Yes.
But you said:
Its a pointless thing to be mean about. If its how someone feels, its how someone feels.
But I was only ‘mean about it’ in the context of being accused of being a transphobe for having the opinion. I was not part of the conversation 'til then. I was not the one who brought up the issue. I didn’t come out of nowhere to attack someone for saying they’re a dragon - Drag, even, has commented numerous times on my posts without me getting into a fight with them about it. I was accused of being transphobic, I defended myself from the accusation by pointing out my rationale, and I get tone-policed for bitching on that after an admin comes from another instance and bans me? Fucking really?
You’re basically outright saying that people couldn’t possibly exist who feel different on the inside. Its just a different sense of self for them, which you - nor I for that matter - understand.
At no point have I commented along the lines of ‘feeling different on the inside’ being invalid. The question is whether ‘feeling different’ is gender. Should I regard my gender as ‘gassy’ after a trip to Taco Bell?
Your opinion and mine don’t mean jack shit. Just like individual opinions about someone’s ability to be transgendered don’t mean jack shit. There is science behind being transgender - and its been set back already by decades (and likely centuries) due to conservative shitheads. If they hadn’t, maybe there would be more scientific exploration of this aspect. I have no idea.
But what I do know is, unless its scientifically proven this can’t be, or its still a possibility.
My opinion on it is meaningless.
… bruh, how much scientific literature on trans issues have you actually read.
But I was only ‘mean about it’ in the context of being accused of being a transphobe for having the opinion
… Again, right in this comment chain. Thats what I was talking about. At no point prior to my last comment - where I explicitly said I feel it was overstepping - did I day anything about what happened other than in this thread.
I’m going to skip the other parts that are, again, going to just make me repeat things ive previously said.
… bruh, how much scientific literature on trans issues have you actually read.
A decent bit, actually. I tend to read scientific papers and white papers, one of my friends and former coworkers was transitioning, I had questions, she sent me a ton of info (knowing I’d find it helpful). Because she’s an awesome friend and knows me and how I process stuff.
… Again, right in this comment chain. Thats what I was talking about. At no point prior to my last comment - where I explicitly said I feel it was overstepping - did I day anything about what happened other than in this thread.
This is when you started calling me a dick:
No, but I’d say anyone who claimed to be a dragon was, at best, cosplaying being a dragon.
On account of dragons not being real, for one.
Saying dragons aren’t real is dickish, but calling someone a dick… isn’t?
A decent bit, actually. I tend to read scientific papers and white papers, one of my friends and former coworkers was transitioning, I had questions, she sent me a ton of info (knowing I’d find it helpful). Because she’s an awesome friend and knows me and how I process stuff.
Then you should know that it’s very much a question wrapped up in hormones and brain chemistry. Are you aware that non-human species have very different hormonal balances and brain chemistry compared to human beings?
I’m just going to skip ahead, because the earlier parts I feel like are just a rehash of the part you’re skipping over.
Not what I said.
I said you should think about your attitude around it. You should think about why you feel you need to be derogatory about it.
Its a pointless thing to be mean about. If its how someone feels, its how someone feels. If its someone being a troll, just being generally polite and considerate and not needing to shove your opinion on them or others is not going to feed troll behavior.
What I’m suggesting you reflect on is why you’re being demeaning about it, rather than just acknowledging and moving on.
Because it trivializes an issue I believe is serious?
Because it’s resulted in an instance regarding any disagreement with the idea as ban-worthy thoughtcrime?
Because when I get called a transphobe for not believing in dragons, it gets my dander up?
Okay? I feel that dragons aren’t a gender. I didn’t go and shove this in Drag’s face, nor, for that matter, in Ada’s face.
Why are my feelings on this invalid?
Shoot.
They may consider it serious too.
So you’re trivializing others based on your perception that its trivializing. Seems kind of a shitty thing to do.
Its kind of been the rule forever there, basically the basis the entire instance was founded on. So… Yeah. Why is that a surprise?
I haven’t commented on anything related to the mod/admin actions until just above, if you notice. Just comments in this thread. Do I think it was overstepping? Yes.
Do I also think you’re being kind of a dick? Also yes.
You’re basically outright saying that people couldn’t possibly exist who feel different on the inside. Its just a different sense of self for them, which neither you - nor I for that matter - understand.
Your opinion and mine don’t mean jack shit. Just like individual opinions about someone’s ability to be transgendered don’t mean jack shit. There is science behind being transgender - and its been set back already by decades (and likely centuries) due to conservative shitheads. If they hadn’t, maybe there would be more scientific exploration of this aspect. I have no idea.
But what I do know is, unless its scientifically proven this can’t be, or its still a possibility.
My opinion on it is meaningless.
Edit: [ ] a whole word.
Some people consider race-mixing serious, that doesn’t mean that I have to treat their considerations with equal respect.
Didn’t realize the basis of the instance was that dragons were real.
But you said:
But I was only ‘mean about it’ in the context of being accused of being a transphobe for having the opinion. I was not part of the conversation 'til then. I was not the one who brought up the issue. I didn’t come out of nowhere to attack someone for saying they’re a dragon - Drag, even, has commented numerous times on my posts without me getting into a fight with them about it. I was accused of being transphobic, I defended myself from the accusation by pointing out my rationale, and I get tone-policed for bitching on that after an admin comes from another instance and bans me? Fucking really?
At no point have I commented along the lines of ‘feeling different on the inside’ being invalid. The question is whether ‘feeling different’ is gender. Should I regard my gender as ‘gassy’ after a trip to Taco Bell?
… bruh, how much scientific literature on trans issues have you actually read.
… Again, right in this comment chain. Thats what I was talking about. At no point prior to my last comment - where I explicitly said I feel it was overstepping - did I day anything about what happened other than in this thread.
I’m going to skip the other parts that are, again, going to just make me repeat things ive previously said.
A decent bit, actually. I tend to read scientific papers and white papers, one of my friends and former coworkers was transitioning, I had questions, she sent me a ton of info (knowing I’d find it helpful). Because she’s an awesome friend and knows me and how I process stuff.
Don’t assume.
I think I’m done for tonight.
This is when you started calling me a dick:
Saying dragons aren’t real is dickish, but calling someone a dick… isn’t?
Then you should know that it’s very much a question wrapped up in hormones and brain chemistry. Are you aware that non-human species have very different hormonal balances and brain chemistry compared to human beings?
Quite a bit more than that, including our understanding of genetic expression continually evolving.
Anyway, like I said, I’m done for tonight. Enjoy your night.
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