• LePoisson@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    Trump is 100% a Russian asset, wild to see that after it was blatantly obvious the first go around we were like “yeah let’s out a Russian spy back in the white house.”

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      The important point isn’t even whether or not he is a Russian asset. He undoubtedly is, but that doesn’t actually matter. All that matters is that he’s acting like a Russian asset. He’s doing all the things a Russian asset would do. Ultimately, whether the orders are actually coming from Putin is irrelevant, because the end result is still the same.

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      8 hours ago

      Judging how Russian elites started licking up to Trump, even blurring out the Soviet emblems in old movies recently in cinema (that’s really unexpected), and that general “master is our friend, master will forgive us”, it seems that Russia is Trump’s asset.

      You are forgetting how much power the US and every powerful person in it have. Russia is simply not on the same level, USSR might have been once.

      Still, that they are in a relationship is obvious.

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        7 hours ago

        I’m not forgetting. It’s just that Russia is clearly dictating some major USA foreign policy and was from 2016 to 2020 as well.

        Obviously it’s not black and white, the world is full of gray, but just looking at it through a realpolitik lens the USA is squandering our international goodwill. It may be at the negotiating table and the UN, ceding territorial control via soft power (ie: blowing up USAID which is an idea so removed it’s embarrassing) that gave us access to resources and good will for where we stick all our military bases, letting Russia dictate terms on the surrender of Ukraine, talking about pulling out of NATO (also insane) and at least working at odds with it… Etc.

        Sorry for the run on sentence.

        Anyways I’m just saying sure some Russian elites are also stroking off Trump at times but that’s just window dressing. If anything they’re doing it because Trump is so incredibly egotistical he can be easily manipulated by pretending to care more about him. That and they want to use him to help launder money and assets (see: cryptocurrency and real estate deals).

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          Sorry, but about Trump’s clearly seen NPL - not only Russia is doing it, but also Argentina under Milei, you are not going to argue Trump is Milei’s puppet, I hope. Nobody wants to piss off a narcissist at the top of the US simply because it’s going to be expensive if nothing else.

          I think the reason Americans love to see Russia as something that strong is because of the Cold War, Russia is not USSR even remotely.

          Also I often write alarmist things about Ukraine’s situation at the frontlines, but right now they say it’s a draw. Capitulation is not something they’ll discuss because there’s no need.

          And everybody already knew that the US can elect any idiot.

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      1 day ago

      Half the country have always been aware of it, but are powerless to stop it, the other half either voted for him because of it- or are in complete denial that it’s happening- right before their eyes.

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      What you are saying is that the president of the most powerful country in the world, that spend 10 times more in war than russia, that run the biggest surveillance network ever seen in history, that has thousand of military infrastructures around the planet and that has the most technological advanced army in the world is 100% a russian asset…

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        23 hours ago

        This is obviously subjective and depends how you define “asset”.

        If you’re asking whether Trump is a red sparrow recruited as a orphan and trained in espionage, ballet, and martial arts from the age of 4, that’s obviously not the case.

        If you’re asking whether Trump is easily manipulated by his desire for validation from competitors, or his desire to exert power over others, then that’s obviously true.

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          If you’re asking whether Trump is easily manipulated by his desire for validation from competitors, or his desire to exert power over others, then that’s obviously true.

          Then expect him to be manipulated by the richest people on earth not just by russian

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            10 hours ago

            Then expect him to be manipulated by the richest people on earth not just by russian

            both are true. This is not mutually exclusive.

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              Indeed but it happens USA has 10 times the bilionares russia has. India has more billionares imagine claiming USA president is controlled by india

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        Yes. I think that he might push back at times for appearance sake but his foreign policy is basically just “do what’s good for Russia.”

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            22 hours ago

            I know it doesn’t just boil down to Ukraine, take the situation in Syria for a good example of Trump towing the Russian line during his first term in office.

            So then are you telling me this as a way to make it even more surprising and crazy that Trump and his admin constantly side with Russia?

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              10 hours ago

              The US and Russia side together when it benefit their authoritarian goals, see the case of Snowden getting stuck in russia because USA said so or look at the silence in general concerning global surveillance: russia never spoke a word about it because they also have their own surveillance and they don’t want the public to know about it.

              What do you think the US does with the biggest army in the world? Are all their warplanes getting dust in hangars?