• AlolanVulpixOP
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        18 hours ago

        They won’t ever do that though

        Why not? If we live in a democracy, we are entitled to our votes counting towards the outcome of an election.

        Is any party even still pushing for that?

        Fair Vote Canada: “The Ontario Green Party and Ontario NDP commit to proportional representation to make every vote count. Nothing from the Ontario Liberal Party and Ontario PCs.”

        Ontario election 2025: Where parties stand on electoral reform.

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          16 hours ago

          Well that’s good. I’m still mad that the liberals promised to do it on Trudeaus first run and then totally defaulted on that very important promise. Fucking asshole.

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            16 hours ago

            Yes same. Although the LPC in 2015 didn’t promise to enact proportional representation, they only promised that 2015 would be the last election under FPTP.

            When it came down to it, Trudeau wanted IRV, and everyone else wanted proportional representation, so he killed it.

            If it’s not proportional representation, every other electoral reform change is a distraction.

            Read more here.

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                15 hours ago

                Yes, you’re right that IRV is technically better than FPTP. Although both are winner-take-all electoral systems.

                But also, the difference between IRV and STV (a proportional representation electoral system) is less than the difference between IRV and FPTP. So really, anybody preferring IRV when STV exists, is either uninformed or has ulterior motives.

                With IRV being a winner-take-all electoral system, we still have wasted votes. A healthy democracy must ensure that every vote counts.

                This is why I say: in the long run, the only viable long term solution is proportional representation: https://lemmy.ca/c/fairvote

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          17 hours ago

          The electorate is too disengaged for this to happen before catastrophe strikes.

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            17 hours ago

            Proportional representation is still good policy, in accordance with democratic principles, independent of the engagement level of the electorate.