• gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de
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    2 days ago

    I agree, and personally find “chaste” or “prude” women unattractive.

    I find it very fascinating and difficult to relate to that large swaths of the population seem to see it differently. The number of times i’ve heard some man say “women should all be more modest” is mind-blowing for me.

    Women, as all humans, have value within themselves, and if they manage to express that (“self-expression”) then the outer world gets to see and share a part of that value. If people don’t act on their instincts, they might as well be dead. Non-constructivists “traditionalists” are only dead weight and don’t contribute anything to society, and i don’t comprehend how some people can see meaning outside of the expressions of the living’s soul. That is why self-expression is so important.

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      15 hours ago

      No one asks the iron what it wants to be before it’s hammered into a crucifix. This is why the religious spend so much time grooming their children for their cult.

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      24 hours ago

      Yup. Whenever I encounter excessive chastity, I think “what else is she repressing? What happens if that repression breaks - or never breaks?” It feels fake and uncomfortable. Not an attractive feeling.

      TBF, maybe she’s just being totally reasonable but picky, but that doesn’t have the same emotional vibe.

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      Heres the super duper secret reason for regressives obsessed with chastity in women. Theyre afraid they have a smaller pee pee than some previous dude. Thats all. How much oppression and spilled blood has happened because of man/boys and their penis envy?

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      in a framework where people are just alive to mate this is a valid theory, but women can also self-express in more ways than offering sex 😂 also, people who only act on their instincts are even more dead than the ones that never act on their instincts. whenever your mode of operation is exactly and only one, never changing, that’s not a good thing.

      anyways, i agree with the core here, which is that vast amounts of the population heavily communicate what criteria others have to fulfill to be desirable. I’d much rather prefer everyone does what they want and chill out

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        No, its a valid theory even if women self-express in ways other than sexuality and the post you were responding to wasn’t suggesting “only acting on instincts” in the first place. But that our society of repressing sexuality is making most of us miserable. There is only a select few people who seem to actually benefit from this set up, and that’s people who either don’t actually desire sexuality for direct enjoyment at all or value it and how it interacts with them more for obtaining other things other than sexual things in life.

        AN important thing to note, people expressing themselves in ways outside of sexuality can make them sexier. And being sexier can enhance non-sexual aspects of a person.

        I think the issue people have is they think wanting sexuality from a person means you are objectifying them by reducing them to sexuality, when in reality its that the sexuality is enhanced by them specifically not being an object. There are many reasons sex with a person and not with a dildo or fleshlight is considered a lot more pleasurable but one of them is that people aren’t objects.

        Also almost no one only operates in one “mode of operation” anyway. This isn’t a real problem except in the minds of prudes projecting an overly simplified perspective on sluts and horndogs. The apparent “obsession” with sex for some people is temporal, some people desire sex up front and then want to do other things once satisfied. Some people want to do other things and then find themselves in the mood after some time with the alternate activity. Its not complicated.

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      If people don’t act on their instincts, they might as well be dead.

      Psychopaths: “Oh boy, here I go killing again.”

      • gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de
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        fair enough

        btw i think you’re confusing “psychopaths” and “sociopaths” here. what you’re referring to is sociopaths, i think, who have little concern for human life. Psychopaths, on the other hand, have difficult time making coherent thoughts, but that mostly affects themselves and their ability to work constructively, not so much their environment. just a small fyi

        also, sociopaths don’t typically kill people quickly or randomly; but rather slowly, by draining their resources out of them, for their own benefit. kinda like what capitalism is doing.

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        I feel like theres a bit of a leap in logic there, from being open about sex to killing people

        also I tho8ght that was a family guy quote and was SEVERELY disappointed when I looked it up