• Ghostalmedia@lemmy.worldOP
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    13 hours ago

    Zelensky should have inquired about NATO guarantees before sending half his country into the meat grinder.

    So, don’t defend your home from a foreign invader unless you’re allowed into NATO? This doesn’t make any sense.

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      4 hours ago

      Ukraine is now destroyed, they are not in NATO. And they have a massive debt to America.

      This makes a lot of sense 🤠👍

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          3 hours ago

          Provide an example of a “Russian bot” in this thread, keen observer. State solid reasons why they are a bot, and why their comments are “blind propaganda against Ukraine”.

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            1 hour ago

            I can’t prove any user are bots, though that is my opinion because I can’t comprehend any other reason for their behaviour. And the blind propaganda is all the messages framing Zelensky as the cause of Ukraine’s destruction while willfully ignoring Russia’s huge involvement, or comments trying to imply he is hated by most Ukrainians (despite his approval rating being well over 50%).

            To be clear, being critical of Zelensky is not propaganda, but willfully ignoring data and historical events for the sole benefit of Russia is.

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              53 minutes ago

              Have you considered reading the comment instead of spamming Russian bot?

              I do not endorse Putin invading Ukraine. And Putin is an authoritarian dictator.

              I simply state that Ukraine was used as a pawn for NATO to weaken Russia. And this was predicted years ago. But anyone saying it was called a Russia bot.

              Ukraine was caught between two evils and did not use its own leverage to get guarantees from NATO. Instead it blindly trusted hollow phrases of possible future NATO membership, refused ceasefire deals, and now is left holding the bag.

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                37 minutes ago

                I did not even reply to you, I replied to another comment which has been since deleted, and was referring to comments across this whole comment section. (Eg: “when his countrymen hang him”, or “this scumbag is responsible for destroying the country”)

                Spamming russian bot

                You can check my comment history, I am fairly sure that is the first time I have ever referred to a user as a Russian bot. Hardly spamming.

                I disagree with your original comment mostly because of the phrasing, because I think it implies that the only reason for Ukraine to be fighting was for NATO membership (as opposed to defending their home from invaders) but your clarification about Ukraine being stuck between two evils I can agree with, or at least find reasonable.

                Edit: added examples above