• eldavi@lemmy.ml
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    2 days ago

    the only thing that could be laughable is how uncritically most people accept the information that is given to them; but it’s not laughable since it leads to so much death and suffering.

    corruption is as rife in poland and the united states as much as it is in ukraine or russia; what makes any difference is that your regime green-lights the propaganda that informs you about the corruption that they want you to see while simultaneously red-lighting any other information. if you’re russian or any kind of easterner, then that red-lighting is done via blatant bans like a chinese firewall; but if you’re polish, american or any kind of westerner, then red-lighting is done by defunding (and/or making irrelevant) journalists/experts whose work could make you aware of the corruption that your regime doesn’t want you to see.

    i’m sure you’re already aware of this at some level somewhere, so not applying this knowledge and uncritically accepting the depictions on polish TV is just plain bonkers. likewise, uncritically accepting the nucleus of each protest is also just as equally bonkers; the bare-bones minimum for critical thinking is analyzing who benefits by the actions taking place and searching for information (beyond the information that your regime wants you to see) will give you the answers.

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      1 day ago

      Poland, the US and Ukraine are absolutely corrupt societies, but while the US is devolving into a Russia-esque regime, Poland and Ukraine are trying to improve their lot.

      Let me respond in language you might understand:

      I’m sure you’re already aware of this at some level somewhere, so not applying this knowledge and uncritically accepting the depictions on Russian TV is just plain bonkers. Likewise, uncritically accepting the Russian talking points about each protest is also just as equally bonkers; the bare-bones minimum for critical thinking is analyzing who would have benefitted from the status-quo and searching for information (beyond the information that your regime wants you to see) will give you the answers.

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        23 hours ago

        it’s understandable why you and an overwhelming majority won’t accept reality since the propaganda you’ve ingested has given you an ideology that will not allow you see reality; it’s also understand how this inability is leading us into yet another needless, bloody episode of history repeating itself as the western capitalist world descends into fascism because of it.

        the message i’ve tried to bring here is the same one that republican and democratic leaders alike going all the way back to reagan & carter. american ambassadors like gfoeller, rundell, matlock and american secretaries of defense like mcnamara, gates, perry have tried to bring this message to nato, the un, and the american & ukranian people; the russians likewise have their own people who tried to give the same warning. two things can be true at the same time and refusing to acknowledge that led to this entirely pointless death and suffering and it will lead to more so long as people like you continue to double down on “chinese bots” and “russian talking points” instead of rational discourse.

        there’s no good reason why half a million people should have been liquidated and nothing was gained from it; only lost and only because people stuck their heads in the sand and refused to acknowledge reality.