UBI and socialized Healthcare are both things often brought into democratic systems by socialists.
Socialism is a theory, it is not any one economic system. Marx regarded it as a threshold between the takeover of capitalism and communism. The term has changed a lot since then as people have used it differently, as colloquialisms go. Socialism and democracy also don’t have to be separate. Socialist democratic systems exist, the Nordic model being a prime example.
It sounds to me like you have a lot of ideas that do align with socialism, but you’ve been exposed to so much propaganda growing up that you haven’t made, or refuse to make the connection.
Why might the ruling class not want you to know what socialism is? Who might it benefit to convince you it doesn’t work?
And just saying it doesn’t work doesn’t change my opinion at all and it’s not convincing to anyone in this thread because you’ve provided no justification besides “there are power-hungry people”, and we are literally seeing power-hungry people destroy any semblance of democracy within the states right now, under a capitalist system. So clearly that flaw is a flaw among most economic systems and is not exclusive to communism.
Look no further than the US’s intervention in Cuba to try to quash its socialist efforts
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Oh so your point was that the reason socialism hasn’t worked as well as it could is capitalism. That didn’t seem to be what you were communicating.
If it wasn’t, then no, I’m proving an entirely different point.
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UBI and socialized Healthcare are both things often brought into democratic systems by socialists.
Socialism is a theory, it is not any one economic system. Marx regarded it as a threshold between the takeover of capitalism and communism. The term has changed a lot since then as people have used it differently, as colloquialisms go. Socialism and democracy also don’t have to be separate. Socialist democratic systems exist, the Nordic model being a prime example.
It sounds to me like you have a lot of ideas that do align with socialism, but you’ve been exposed to so much propaganda growing up that you haven’t made, or refuse to make the connection.
Why might the ruling class not want you to know what socialism is? Who might it benefit to convince you it doesn’t work?
And just saying it doesn’t work doesn’t change my opinion at all and it’s not convincing to anyone in this thread because you’ve provided no justification besides “there are power-hungry people”, and we are literally seeing power-hungry people destroy any semblance of democracy within the states right now, under a capitalist system. So clearly that flaw is a flaw among most economic systems and is not exclusive to communism.