• Varyk@sh.itjust.works
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    2 days ago

    I read the article.

    and I get that we were all taught to ask questions for the titles on our high school essays, but asking why pro-hitler content is promoted by a company whose CEO literally publicly performed a Nazi salute is less effective than the headline:

    “There is a pro-hitler and Holocaust-denying ad on Twitter.”

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    2 days ago

    Better question: what are people going to do in response?

    Probably nothing. Disappointing.

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      2 days ago

      I already don’t use Twitter, and encourage my friends not to, either. But I did that years ago. There’s not really a whole lot else I can do? Start a Fight Club, squat in an old condemned house, and blow up their building at the end? I have bills to pay and family that depends on those bills being paid.

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        16 hours ago

        the most important thing you can do is organize on any anticapitalist or antifascist organization.

    • John Richard@lemmy.world
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      2 days ago

      What should they do? Outlaw free speech & things that other people don’t like? Guess I’ll be going to jail since I’m an atheist & will gladly call most Christians mentally ill. Since Trump is in power prob will be one of the first things he outlaws. You should research legal cases regarding free speech. Many Jews have even represented & defended Nazis rights to march & speak their opinions in public without violence or censorship. There are many good arguments & thought that has went into that case law. Just cause it bothers you doesn’t mean that it hasn’t been considered before.

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        2 days ago

        Paradox of tolerance comes to mind. If you just put up with people who want to do bad things, they’ll probably do bad things!

        And it was considered before. There was a Holocaust. It was decided, via violence and other means, that naziism is not okay.

        Also, Twitter is a private platform and is largely free to decide what goes on its platform.

        You’re approaching fractally wrong, here.

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          1 day ago

          Over 50 years of case law on the subject shows I’m right, but go on and tell me how you’re degree in emotions proves me wrong.

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            23 hours ago

            There are numerous cases showing that free speech is not absolute.

            Law is also not necessarily correct.

            And that doesn’t address that we’re talking about a private platform.

            You’re still wrong, and you’re still wrong in a way that supports the absolute worst of humanity.

            • John Richard@lemmy.world
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              20 hours ago

              There are numerous cases showing that free speech is not absolute.

              Law is also not necessarily correct.

              Both things fascist have said as well.

              Also, what prominent cases in the US would you like to discuss regarding free speech where you think the courts have ruled incorrectly?

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                18 hours ago

                I’m not going to do legal research or write a whole thesis for you.

                Maybe start here for cases where freedom of speech is not absolute: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shouting_fire_in_a_crowded_theater

                You can also consider that the NYT is not legally or morally obligated to publish every letter they receive. Are your first amendment rights being violated when they opt not to print your letter? No.

                I don’t want to discuss with you. I don’t think you’re acting in good faith.

                I mean really “sometimes laws are incorrect” -> “fascists say that” is like satire.

                • John Richard@lemmy.world
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                  17 hours ago

                  So your opinion on this topic is 100% based on your emotional feelings & 5 minutes of Wikipedia research, which isn’t even regarding to latter precedent like in Brandenburg v. Ohio? Maybe spend more than 5 minutes getting your emotional reassurance next time. X is a private company & so they can choose to use the free speech definition according to law, which the government can’t restrict… that means you can’t lock up people cause they offend you & can’t commit assault & murder like many people here commonly advocate for, cause to them everyone they don’t like is a Nazi.

                  You can run away now back to your hidey hole & then go find some people that are pro-fascist & censorship that you can agree with.