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Are there good modern mecha anime that match older anime like Super Dimension Fortress Macross or Neon Genesis Evangelion?
I know it may be a hot take, but I am not personally a fan of Gundam. Which seems like a perfect fit but for whatever reason every time I have tried to watch it I just never make it more than a few episodes in. Also ironically not a fan of Macross beyond SDF Macross and Macross II Lovers Again.
I’ve already seen these mecha and mecha adjacent anime:
Full Metal Panic! (Liked it a lot until like season 3 which IIRC was called invisible victory or something)
Gurren Lagann (It seemed okay but I never finished it)
Bubblegum Crisis (loved this one, peak anime, not Tokyo 2040 though)
Darling in the Franxx (really liked this one until the last like 3 episodes, shame it had to end so badly)
Knights and Magic (I liked it but I havent finished it)
Project AKo (fun, but only a minor bit of mecha)
Sei Juushi Bismarck (i liked this one)
Armored Tropper VOTOMS (its on my watchlist)
I heard someone recommend me 86, but I havent looked into it yet. If anyone has watched it, and knows what I have seen, does it match the shows on the list?
So, I watched Evangelion but basically none of the others you mentioned. I feel like such a fraud as a moderator of [email protected], but in any case, I can recommend at least one mecha series that I particularly enjoyed. It is more a parody of the genre, but sometimes its through parody that we realize the best that a genre has to offer. Specifically, Brave Bang Bravern!.
Is Bravern a comedy? Yes. Is Bravern a tragedy? Yes. Is Bravern a romance? Yes. Is Bravern kick ass? Hell yes. It’s hard to put it in a box since it will pull some new weapon out of nowhere and break out as soon as you try. At one point, the giant, sentient robot was building giant robot-sized gunpla, and this was just accepted as normal and never commented on by any of the characters. It’s an absurd take on the mecha genre that simultaneously shows an absolute love and dedication to what makes it great. The genre might be about big robots, but it is the human connection that makes us care about the story at the end of the day.
tl;dr - Watch Bravern
This is actually standard for the genre. Very few mecha shows are really about the robots; the robots are just there to add a bit of spice to the human drama.
Also, if you haven’t seen Gurren Lagann you’re missing out. It’s an all-time favorite of mine and is (in my opinion) a much better show than Evangelion.
Pfff. What a fraud. /s
Thanks for the recommendation, I will check it out.
I don’t have much to add, but seconding Bravern, it’s really that good.
I’m having a hard time with this because I don’t think those shows even matched each other. What is it you liked about them that you don’t like about some of the newer stuff you’ve mentioned?
I like the style of mecha in both, I like that the story featured mecha very heavily, but spent more or less equal time focusing on the lives of the pilots outside of the mecha. Both were incredibly well written, the soundtrack of both was great, etc.
With Macross, I found the style of mecha changed with later Macross titles and I just didn’t like the designs. I also didnt like that the focus seemed to shift too much away from the mecha.
Regarding Gundam, I find the anime difficult to watch because it doesn’t hold my interest, though I have a hard time explaining why. I also dislike the overly blocky mecha design. A very similar design to G1 Transformers, I just don’t like that style.
Come to think of it, you might like Gundam GQuuuuuux. It’s a collaboration between Studio Sunrise (Gundam) and Studio Khara (Evangelion). The mechas look like a blend of the two. If you look at the staff list you’ll see some really amazing people there, including Hideaki Anno himself. It hasn’t been released yet, but the compilation film of the first 4 episodes should air soon in the US and the rest of the series is supposed to stream online later this year.
Yes, I saw an ad for it and have had my eye on it.
The thing to keep in mind about 86 is that it’s a very grimdark kind of show (themes of racism, lots of character death). It’s a good show and worth trying, but if grimdark isn’t your thing, don’t be surprised if you bounce.
Hmm . . . so what else has no one recommended yet that’s worth trying. Gargantia on the Verdurous Planet, of course. You might find the earlier installments in the Aquarion franchise (Genesis of Aquarion, Aquarion EVOL, and Aquarion Logos) somewhat amusing—they’re more on the silly side, but so are some of the shows you listed (the first series especially has some very silly-weird stuff, like the episode where the characters are cosplaying each other).
Older shows that you haven’t mentioned and might be worth looking at would include Patlabor and Escaflowne.
And as someone has already said, do finish Gurren Lagann—it’s worth it.
I didn’t expect one of my favorite mech anime to be a 90s shoujo isekai, but Escaflowne was just that good.
I liked Goblin Slayer. Dark doesn’t bother me, as long as the show is good and holds my attention.
Both PatLabor and Escaflowne are on my watchlist, I just didn’t mention them. Thank you for the other recommendations though, I will look into them.
I loved the first season of Aldnoah Zero
It’s realistic mecha, e.g. Patlabor, using believable science to fight science fantasy mecha with un-realistic abilities powered by “Aldnoah” a magical/“sufficiently advanced technology” power source discovered on Mars.
Don’t bother with the 2nd season though, they lost the head plot writer Gen Urobochi it the writing really suffered.
If you like 80s anime and hordes of polygonal ships flying around fighting each other, there’s Legend Of The Galactic Heroes: Die Neue These, a remake of the long running 80s TV and OVA series.
If you like big things fighting each other, there’s SSSS.Gridman. Technically the titular figure is a mech, but it’s a take on a mostly-forgotten Tsuburaya tokusatsu show.
And, as someone else said, definitely finish Gurren Lagann
Attack on Titan (flesh mechas)
Code Geass
FLCL
86: I highly recommend it. It’s more cerebral and introspective without being pretentious.
Do yourself a favor and checkout Gunbuster (1988) and its loose sequel Diebuster (2004). Gunbuster was directed by Evangelion director Hideaki Anno (and it might be his most concise stand-alone work), while Diebuster was directed by his protege, FLCL director Kazuya Tsurumaki.
Both are just 6 episodes, with fantastic Gainax animation, great soundtracks, and masterful storytelling. I strongly recommend watching the original Gunbuster before Diebuster, though it isn’t totally necessary.
As someone who is in the process of catching up on all things Gundam before seeing GQuuuuuux (the new Gundam by the creators of FLCL, Diebuster and Evangelion) later this month, I highly recommend giving it another try and sticking with it until at least the second half of the original Mobile Suit Gundam (0079). There are a couple reasons for this:
There are a couple of rough episodes in the first half, but I love this show and recommend seeing it through. This is a show where the scale and scope of the story just snowballs into something really big and cool.
Finally, have you watched the SDF Macross movie retelling, Do You Remember Love? Because if not, it’s fantastic and worth seeing.
Thanks for the recommendations, Ill take a look.
Yes, Do You Remember Love is good, but IMO it doesn’t quite match the anime. Which is to be expected given its significantly shorter run time.
I’m with you. The spectacle aspect is fantastic, but it definitely rushes through the story.