what does Bernie stand for again? i watched his reaction to trumps thingy on that YT platform and his goals seem very reasonable and like basic human rights
bernie’s been ‘fighting the good fight’ his entire life. he’s a decent, compassionate, caring human who genuinely just wants what’s best for his country and the planet.
but that’s no good for corporate profits or the continued and unchecked accumulation of wealth, which is why the ‘powers that be’ wouldn’t let him have a real shot at the presidency.
maybe the best that can be achived in the US, via reforms.
social democratic societies are better for their people than rampant capitalism, but they are still deeply hierarchical. they still leave state and capital with too much power, while apeasing worker with the sham of parlamentary democracy, and benefits, that are controlled by the state. this is already not a great end goal, but its also unstable, because capitalists still have enough power to take away the reforms that were made, and they will eventually.
i reject the careless use of gender in the english language. there is no point in mentioning someones gender every time you mention them, other than implied sexism. bernies gender was not relevant to my comment, so i do not see a need to mention it.
His policies would have long term pro business aspects that far outpace the current balloon and crash economy, but the accumulation of wealth would be unattainable at it’s current level.
that is true, but when has corporate america ever been concerned about anything other than the current quarter’s balance sheet and tomorrow’s share price?
He’s been fighting his entire career for specifically universal healthcare. The other democrats are terrified of him.
My understanding is that the reason they’re terrified of him is that he’s not playing the same game as the rest of them. The career track for a Democrat on the national level goes something like this:
Have rich parents to fund your first campaign, or a politician dad with a recognizable last name.
Get funding for future campaigns through corporate lobbyists.
Be a fence-sitter so you never have to pass actual legislation and risk offending your corporate backers
When you get tired of politics, retire and become a lobbyist.
Bernie is doing none of that. He is as grassroots as grassroots gets. His campaigns are crowdfunded. People vote for him because he has repeatedly proven that he is honest and has integrity. If he ever gets his way, they can be sure their corporate backers will run for the Republicans as fast as they can, and then they won’t be able to have that cushy retirement as a lobbyist! In contrast, Bernie is only beholden to the voters who he represents, so his game is all about performing honesty and integrity constantly for the rest of his life. He doesn’t get to retire. He’s going to die on Capitol Hill.
Slightly related- one of my favorite photos is of Bernie in 1963, being arrested in Chicago during a civil rights protest. He’s really been fighting for other people his whole life.
oh wow, he really sounds like a genuine human in a political position. why have i not heard more from him?
i only knew him from that one meme…
i’m so happy someone like him exists, i thought in America politics it really would just be evil capitalists either going yeah, let's make moni or eh, living is important too i guess but apparently not! vrrrry happi to hear this <3
Yeah, actually. This is mostly because his decades of consistent integrity has earned him a cult-like fanbase of rabid superfans. Don’t get me wrong, he’s earned it, but I’ve met a suprising amount of fans of his IRL who seemed totally ready to throw hands with me after I made the mistake of saying that AOC might be a decent successor to him. A fanbase like that means money. Not anywhere near as much as his peers, of course, but combine the money from rabid supporters with the fact that word of mouth is the best kind of marketing and you get a very affordable campaign.
Also, the fact he’s not playing the game his peers are means he doesn’t have the lifestyle inflation his peers suffer. He seems to live cheaply.
He represents Vermont, our second least populous state, with only about 650,000 residents, and 371,000 votes cast in the 2020 election.
For reference, Washington DC has a population of 690,000, and cast 346,000 votes.
Additionally, Sanders is a long time incumbent. He was elected to the House of Representatives in 1991 where he served until becoming a senator in 2008 (which was prior to citizens United). In Vermont, the house of Representatives is a statewide election due to their small population.
Despite being an independent, Sanders has in many ways been acting as a Democrat, so the Democrats have avoided running against him for fear of splitting the vote. Combined with the overall democratic lean of the state, that gives him a relatively secure position.
Many other Democrats are similarly secure in their own seat. However, as part of being members of the party proper, they are under much more pressure to raise money for the party as a whole to spend on competitive raises
he’s basically what most of the rest of the world would call social democrat, democratic socialist, or green. basically he’s one of about 6 sane legislators we have
He’s self described as a democratic socialist that has to argue for the government doing stuff because he lives in America and we’re not seizing any means any time soon.
what does Bernie stand for again? i watched his
reaction
to trumps thingy on that YT platform and his goals seem very reasonable and like basic human rights(coming from an EU background)
bernie’s been ‘fighting the good fight’ his entire life. he’s a decent, compassionate, caring human who genuinely just wants what’s best for his country and the planet.
but that’s no good for corporate profits or the continued and unchecked accumulation of wealth, which is why the ‘powers that be’ wouldn’t let him have a real shot at the presidency.
maybe the best that can be achived in the US, via reforms.
social democratic societies are better for their people than rampant capitalism, but they are still deeply hierarchical. they still leave state and capital with too much power, while apeasing worker with the sham of parlamentary democracy, and benefits, that are controlled by the state. this is already not a great end goal, but its also unstable, because capitalists still have enough power to take away the reforms that were made, and they will eventually.
Bernie goes by he/him
i reject the careless use of gender in the english language. there is no point in mentioning someones gender every time you mention them, other than implied sexism. bernies gender was not relevant to my comment, so i do not see a need to mention it.
His policies would have long term pro business aspects that far outpace the current balloon and crash economy, but the accumulation of wealth would be unattainable at it’s current level.
that is true, but when has corporate america ever been concerned about anything other than the current quarter’s balance sheet and tomorrow’s share price?
He’s been fighting his entire career for specifically universal healthcare. The other democrats are terrified of him.
My understanding is that the reason they’re terrified of him is that he’s not playing the same game as the rest of them. The career track for a Democrat on the national level goes something like this:
Bernie is doing none of that. He is as grassroots as grassroots gets. His campaigns are crowdfunded. People vote for him because he has repeatedly proven that he is honest and has integrity. If he ever gets his way, they can be sure their corporate backers will run for the Republicans as fast as they can, and then they won’t be able to have that cushy retirement as a lobbyist! In contrast, Bernie is only beholden to the voters who he represents, so his game is all about performing honesty and integrity constantly for the rest of his life. He doesn’t get to retire. He’s going to die on Capitol Hill.
Slightly related- one of my favorite photos is of Bernie in 1963, being arrested in Chicago during a civil rights protest. He’s really been fighting for other people his whole life.![](https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/pictrs/image/4ae75ecd-216e-4c8d-a7cc-aeea0eb9fdc4.webp)
How did people get anything done if they always had to hold a cigarette in one hand?
They got things done with their other hand. Obv.
oh wow, he really sounds like a genuine human in a political position. why have i not heard more from him?
i only knew him from that one meme…
i’m so happy someone like him exists, i thought in America politics it really would just be evil capitalists either going
yeah, let's make moni
oreh, living is important too i guess
but apparently not! vrrrry happi to hear this <3How does Bernie have the money to not have to play the game that the other Democrats are playing? Can crowd funding really cover it all?
Yeah, actually. This is mostly because his decades of consistent integrity has earned him a cult-like fanbase of rabid superfans. Don’t get me wrong, he’s earned it, but I’ve met a suprising amount of fans of his IRL who seemed totally ready to throw hands with me after I made the mistake of saying that AOC might be a decent successor to him. A fanbase like that means money. Not anywhere near as much as his peers, of course, but combine the money from rabid supporters with the fact that word of mouth is the best kind of marketing and you get a very affordable campaign.
Also, the fact he’s not playing the game his peers are means he doesn’t have the lifestyle inflation his peers suffer. He seems to live cheaply.
He represents Vermont, our second least populous state, with only about 650,000 residents, and 371,000 votes cast in the 2020 election.
For reference, Washington DC has a population of 690,000, and cast 346,000 votes.
Additionally, Sanders is a long time incumbent. He was elected to the House of Representatives in 1991 where he served until becoming a senator in 2008 (which was prior to citizens United). In Vermont, the house of Representatives is a statewide election due to their small population.
Despite being an independent, Sanders has in many ways been acting as a Democrat, so the Democrats have avoided running against him for fear of splitting the vote. Combined with the overall democratic lean of the state, that gives him a relatively secure position.
Many other Democrats are similarly secure in their own seat. However, as part of being members of the party proper, they are under much more pressure to raise money for the party as a whole to spend on competitive raises
It does. He doesn’t accept corporate donations. Even on his last presidential campaign the average donation was $27.
he’s basically what most of the rest of the world would call social democrat, democratic socialist, or green. basically he’s one of about 6 sane legislators we have
He’s self described as a democratic socialist that has to argue for the government doing stuff because he lives in America and we’re not seizing any means any time soon.
That’s pretty much it. But in the US, that makes him a commie bastard who not even the majority of the Democratic Party agree with much of the time.
He’s a normal human being and wants to help all of humanity