…and my point is that you are complaining about policy in terms of who changed the policy and not in terms of what the policy actually is. “Trump is bad!” might be reductive, but it is the heart of your position, and most of your reaction to it could easily be reduced to “You are mischaracterizing me by saying ‘Trump is bad!’, here’s why Trump is bad and why it doesn’t matter what the policy actually is since it’s bad policy because it’s his and you’re a fool to base your opinion on what the policy actually says and does, especially since it was active policy nationwide from 2018-August, 2024.”
Also note: Trump didn’t propose the rule changes in question: DeVos did, back in 2018. Went through the entire bureaucratic rulemaking process that the Obama admin kinda ran roughshod over with that version of Title IX policy. The core of what Trump actually proposed was “I wanna throw out that thing that Biden did that overturned DeVos.” It’s not like he’s overturned other things Biden did solely because Biden did them or anything, like the whiny narcissist that he is.
It’s NOT that Trump is bad, it’s that he’s a RAPIST and you’re stupidly gullable if you think he isn’t changing the rules on RAPE to make it easier for rich men like him to get away with RAPE, and it’s also that getting lawyers involved in K12 exclusions makes everything worse and particularly harrowing for girls who have been RAPED and it’s SPECIFICALLY designed to SILENCE THEM.
…and again, my whole point is that you aren’t engaging with what the policy actually says/does, but starting and stopping with whose administration it was created under and rolled back to under.
I also notice you keep focusing on K12, despite a majority of these cases being college cases. Both the stakes of being wrongly found responsible and the likelihood anyone involved has a lawyer for the Title IX hearing are much lower for K12 cases. Unless the kid is accusing staff or faculty, in which case I definitely expect the kid’s parents to have a lawyer present at the very least, but that’s because there are much more likely to be criminal or civil cases in that case in addition to the Title IX case as opposed to cases involving two kids where it’s probably just the Title IX hearing.
It really isn’t specifically designed to silence them though. Part of the whole construct is specifically that any questioning of their testimony has to be approved by the finder of fact (aka analog to a judge, since the DeVos process is modeled in a lot of ways on a bench trial - typically this is the Title IX Coordinator, but it can be delegated) as being relevant to the case - the whole point of which is to bar questions that are just irrelevant victim blaming / victim shaming from being asked (for example, the sex life of the accuser is usually irrelevant, as is what she was wearing). The accused is also not allowed to ask questions directly, it must go through an intermediate (typically either lawyer for the accused or appointed faculty advisor), specifically to make it less intimidating.
What would you consider a policy that both 1) allows the accused to mount a real defense to the accusation and 2) isn’t “designed to silence them” if having questions asked by a third party that are first vetted by another third party to be relevant is “designed to silence them”?
…and my point is that you are complaining about policy in terms of who changed the policy and not in terms of what the policy actually is. “Trump is bad!” might be reductive, but it is the heart of your position, and most of your reaction to it could easily be reduced to “You are mischaracterizing me by saying ‘Trump is bad!’, here’s why Trump is bad and why it doesn’t matter what the policy actually is since it’s bad policy because it’s his and you’re a fool to base your opinion on what the policy actually says and does, especially since it was active policy nationwide from 2018-August, 2024.”
Also note: Trump didn’t propose the rule changes in question: DeVos did, back in 2018. Went through the entire bureaucratic rulemaking process that the Obama admin kinda ran roughshod over with that version of Title IX policy. The core of what Trump actually proposed was “I wanna throw out that thing that Biden did that overturned DeVos.” It’s not like he’s overturned other things Biden did solely because Biden did them or anything, like the whiny narcissist that he is.
It’s NOT that Trump is bad, it’s that he’s a RAPIST and you’re stupidly gullable if you think he isn’t changing the rules on RAPE to make it easier for rich men like him to get away with RAPE, and it’s also that getting lawyers involved in K12 exclusions makes everything worse and particularly harrowing for girls who have been RAPED and it’s SPECIFICALLY designed to SILENCE THEM.
…and again, my whole point is that you aren’t engaging with what the policy actually says/does, but starting and stopping with whose administration it was created under and rolled back to under.
I also notice you keep focusing on K12, despite a majority of these cases being college cases. Both the stakes of being wrongly found responsible and the likelihood anyone involved has a lawyer for the Title IX hearing are much lower for K12 cases. Unless the kid is accusing staff or faculty, in which case I definitely expect the kid’s parents to have a lawyer present at the very least, but that’s because there are much more likely to be criminal or civil cases in that case in addition to the Title IX case as opposed to cases involving two kids where it’s probably just the Title IX hearing.
It really isn’t specifically designed to silence them though. Part of the whole construct is specifically that any questioning of their testimony has to be approved by the finder of fact (aka analog to a judge, since the DeVos process is modeled in a lot of ways on a bench trial - typically this is the Title IX Coordinator, but it can be delegated) as being relevant to the case - the whole point of which is to bar questions that are just irrelevant victim blaming / victim shaming from being asked (for example, the sex life of the accuser is usually irrelevant, as is what she was wearing). The accused is also not allowed to ask questions directly, it must go through an intermediate (typically either lawyer for the accused or appointed faculty advisor), specifically to make it less intimidating.
Of course it’s designed to silence them. There’s a word that keeps coming up; gullible. Really, really gullible.
What would you consider a policy that both 1) allows the accused to mount a real defense to the accusation and 2) isn’t “designed to silence them” if having questions asked by a third party that are first vetted by another third party to be relevant is “designed to silence them”?