that’s not an example of the model having censorship though, that’s censorship ontop of the model, the website is just seeing keywords and overriding the model’s output.
If you actually run deepseek locally (deepseek-r1 specifically in my case) it just has a moderate tendency to lie by omission.
When asked “what do people mean when they say ‘tiananmen square’” it gives a very candid answer that explicitly calls it “one of china’s bloodiest crackdowns on peaceful protests”.
What are you running locally? Distilled models are far less censored. I use deep seek via openrouter and tested it on many providers and it provides refusal or canned nationalistic answers on direct questions on Chinese politics. I tried to ask a out Huawei sanctions, Taiwan status or Tiananmen and it does have it probably embedded in the fine tuning. It feels like the answers llama2 would give you when you ask for something it considered harmful
The distilled ones still have traces of the censorship but are just giving lip effort to it. Give it a week to have an uncensored version.
Here is how you can make it talk about Tiananmen for instance: https://slrpnk.net/post/17842503/13502337
that’s not an example of the model having censorship though, that’s censorship ontop of the model, the website is just seeing keywords and overriding the model’s output.
If you actually run deepseek locally (deepseek-r1 specifically in my case) it just has a moderate tendency to lie by omission.
When asked “what do people mean when they say ‘tiananmen square’” it gives a very candid answer that explicitly calls it “one of china’s bloodiest crackdowns on peaceful protests”.
What are you running locally? Distilled models are far less censored. I use deep seek via openrouter and tested it on many providers and it provides refusal or canned nationalistic answers on direct questions on Chinese politics. I tried to ask a out Huawei sanctions, Taiwan status or Tiananmen and it does have it probably embedded in the fine tuning. It feels like the answers llama2 would give you when you ask for something it considered harmful