• WatDabney@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    12 hours ago

    Huh - apparently just being not-the-Republicans isn’t enough.

    The important question is, will the DNC learn anything from this?

    I’m guessing no.

    It’d be bad enough if that just meant that the US is for all intents a one-party system, but at this particular point in history, the future of the country and the lives of millions depend on effective opposition to those who are building a plutocratic/fascist oligarchy, and the exact institution that should be the vanguard for opposition is just a bunch of greedy pigs and cowards.

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      10 hours ago

      They didn’t even learn anything from Dubya. Their answer to Bush was Clinton, not Obama. Obama was an unexpected primary winner thanks to people that were insanely enthusiastic about his platform, and healthcare reform coming into the public spotlight. The turnout he got was like nothing they’d been able to do before.

      And what they took away from that was “wow, Obama was just a once in a generation charismatic speaker.” 🤦‍♂️ I look forward to the next round of being told how good the economy is!

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      11 hours ago

      Of course they won’t learn jack fucking shit. If we have another election it will be “super fascist Nazi KKK” Republican vs “corpo fascist mildly less racist” Democrat. American politicians have completely abandoned anything remotely resembling liberal or leftist ideaology in favor sucking the fat dripy corporate cock for money. It is utterly disgusting.

      I’d like to be hopeful that with the list of DNC committee members leaked that maybe the ones who want to drag the party left will come together and bring change. But honestly I’m just hoping to be able to afford chicken breasts and eggs by the next election.

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      11 hours ago

      I’ve never understood why “Not Republicans” isn’t enough, frankly.

      Criticism of center-right Third Way corporatists aside, one would have to be half braindead to believe a chasm still doesn’t separate the two. I mean, if you could go back and take milquetoast over Hitler, wouldn’t you?

      I mean it was basically Stagnation vs. Fascism if viewing Dems in the worst light this cycle (and that’s being harsh). Gee… Tough choice.

      Instead let’s take a step back and recognize the superseding problem: if you don’t fix the skewed media landscape, then it really doesn’t matter who you run or what policy you run because reality is being distorted by the right wing propaganda machine.

      Harris was better than Trump in literally every single way. Trump could do no wrong in the electorate’s eyes while Harris had to be perfect. Can’t win with that uphill battle / double-standard.

      There’s a reason the education gap widened this election. People who had critical-thinking skills to sort truth from bullshit understood this.

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        I’ve never understood why “Not Republicans” isn’t enough, frankly.

        Well there are two reasons:

        1-It’ll never beat fascism. The “critical thinking” skills you’re talking about simply don’t exist or aren’t well-developed in most of the American (or really, world) population. The average person does not care about politics, so you have to make them care and no matter how good your stick is if there’s no carror it won’t stick. Voters can wait hours in polling stations to vote for the smaller shit sandwich against the bigger shit sandwich, or they can just… not do that and go about their day. The consequences will only come later, meanwhile the disappointment and indignation come now. Humans simply aren’t made to take the lesser evil here.

        2-Voting for a politician is an inherently transactional affair. You vote for them and if they gain power they use it to pass the bills you want them to pass, or at least prevent bills you don’t want to pass from passing. The Democrats stopped honoring that transaction, and in their misguided rightward shift crossed too many red lines. They angered Muslims and progressives by their stance on Gaza, they angered left-leaning Latinos by their stance on immigration, and angered the average voter by pretending that the economy was fine and that they were doing a terrific job when it was not and they were not, etc etc. I remember seeing a comment here a little ways back saying something to the effect of “I’m a Latino and I used to vote blue because of immigration, but now they adopted the republican position so they lost my vote”. Repeat this enough times and you have a significant fraction of their support base saying “you don’t care about me or my struggles? Then fuck you too” and not voting on election day.

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          8 hours ago

          Warn democrats that this is happening and they call you a russian trumper and blame you when they lose.

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      10 hours ago

      just being not-the-Republicans isn’t enough.

      That’s not a Democrat issue; that’s an education issue in America.

      Remind me why it’s a political issue and why one party needs to educate people to where they can choose the least bad of two options again?

      Just run a series of ads like “stop hitting yourself” and “is hate making you rich yet, or just them?”

      And maybe don’t stop. Make a “lie down with dogs” one and a “fox managing henhouse” one.

      Fuck it. Just cover all the fables and adages. If it’s on commercial spots in-between wrestling matches, maybe it’ll reach enough.