I thought to just make a public post about this. I’ve seen many people get married with the vows “Death Do Us Part”

This is a good vow don’t get me wrong but I’d encourage finding an alternative that doesn’t include death unless you truly mean it. What this entails if you mean it,

If someone cheats. The other partner has the right to kill them, if one tries leaving without mutual agreement. The other one can kill them. It’s not about anything unhealthy but two people collectively agreeing to a statement.

If you don’t want that then something like Till Time Do Us Part.

This way there is no death involved and your relationship isn’t built on a false and shallow promise.

Like any weddings I go to. I will call out, if they ever ask if anyone opposes. Then I’ll explain this.

  • DaddysLittleSlut@lemmy.worldOP
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    It’s odd to assume it wouldn’t have originally been that. Like I believe it is currently but in that case it’s because they find an alternative meaning to it. Since in my mind it’s like yes so you will part when someone dies or Till Death do us part. So in return if it’s that then I’d assume it has killing part of it if you both don’t mutually agree yk.

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      There’s no “or else” in the statement. If you break the vow you broke the vow. Consequences of breaking a vow aren’t necessarily death even in more barbaric times. Certainly not today unless you live in some backwards country that allows “honor” killing. Most people don’t expect their relationship to fail when they get married but shit happens, people change, sometimes they’re lying to their partner about who they are. It’s not always something you can work through and stay together. Saying people deserve death for that is incredibly fucked up. Imagine someone in an abusive marriage having to deal with that.

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        That is why I encourage to use other vows. So for example you don’t say a false statement. Like Time do us part. Though of what I’ve found and inherited there is a few cultures that truly mean it. If you break it. You bring dishonour upon yourself, your ancestors, kids and family in general. So while one of my inherited cultures while meaning it. If you broke the vow as I said would bring the dishonour mentioned above. It’d also basically deface you. You’d be less trusted or other. Though in my more other heritage. If you broke this vow. There would be heavy consequences or even death. As vows were placed on a spiritual level. Said in front of alters of gods/goddess.

        This is why I also encourage people to find another saying. While most times. Even if this is said a person is abusive they can already get out. As most times if they can document substantial proof. Anyone would help them get out.

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          Yes, breaking the vow gives you a bad name. That is the consequence. Not death. There’s no need to kill them unless you’re just a controlling asshole and want something to hold over their head to keep them from leaving you. You really think somebody deserves to die over a relationship not working out?

          As vows were placed on a spiritual level. Said in front of alters of gods/goddess.

          Then leave it to the gods to sort them out. How is it you think you know better than a divine being?

          Even if this is said a person is abusive they can already get out. As most times if they can document substantial proof. Anyone would help them get out.

          So there is wiggle room then? What’s the line? Physical abuse? Mental abuse? Being financially irresponsible? Laziness? Forgetting to take out the garbage? Where do we start killing the other person for failing to properly respect their vow and where do we just let them go?