I am shocked to see so many posts in Reddit and here mentioning Andy’s post.

There are people creating posts with titles like Proton became MAGA, Andy endorsed Republican, and the like…

I am urging everyone, please take a step back and look at the whole story.

I really don’t want people to be manipulated by reading only the titles of those posts and come into conclusion of what Proton is doing.

And please think this, “Proton Mail is the world’s largest secure email provider. Swiss, end-to-end encrypted, private, and free.” what does the service has to do with politics?

Thank you

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    I am not American. I don’t understand why they need to endorse any US politician, let alone Trump specifically.

    The fact that the CEO seems to have a limited understanding of the concept of oligarchy and seems to be buying into pretty low effort “American-style” corruption propaganda schemes is rather worrying.

    I subscribe and I generally like the service, but I am going to at least keep in mind that I may need to switch at some point.

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      No one endorsed Trump. Please read the actual posts that are being referred to. He said Trump’s pick for leader of the FTC was a good choice. FTC being the arm of the government charged with anti-trust enforcement. Thus tangentially related to Andy’s business where he competes with said monopolies.

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        Even if we take what you’re saying at face value, Trump’s FTC pick is a fucking terrible choice too, and very corporate friendly.

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          At face value? Do you think there’s some sort of subtle messaging here? It is a lie. Plain and simple.

          Trump’s FTC pick is a fucking terrible choice too

          I don’t know anything about them but I’m confident they are if they were chosen by Trump. That doesn’t make what was said not a blatant fucking lie. Facts matter.

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            You’re confident they’re a terrible choice? Then that makes what the Proton CEO said a fucking lie, because he’s confident the corporate stooge is a great choice.

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              Contrary to what you may have been told, a disagreement is not the same thing as a lie.

              Also that has nothing to do with what we’re discussing. We’re discussing the lie that Andy endorsed Trump.

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                • Proton CEO: Trump’s FTC pick is great for privacy and reigning in big tech
                • Trump’s FTC pick is a corporate stooge that is corporate friendly
                • Big Tech is corporate
                • Therefore, there is no reason for to believe that Trump’s FTC pick is good for privacy and reigning in big tech
                • therefore, Proton CEO lied

                Now, let’s look at the definition of endorsement:

                the act of saying that you approve of or support something or someone

                The something in this case is Trump’s judgement (which, even you have agreed is terrible), because it is Trump’s judgement that picked the person.

                Ergo, he is endorsing, although indirectly, Trump, for Trump is the holder of the judgement that was picked.

                Now, with all that being said, criticizing the Democrats while also stating Republicans support the little guy (paraphrased) is also a lie - there’s plenty of evidence behind this.

                Considering Trump picked this guy too:

                There’s also little excuse to support anything this government does at this point as well.

                Apply a bit of critical thinking, if you’re willing, and it’s not hard to see the Proton CEO supports Trump, even if he walked back his statements.

                Now, you’re free to keep your business with Proton.

                I for one would rather not put my trust in privacy for someone who is holding water for literal fascists, considering how fascists have historically been known to dislike personal privacy of others.

                If you’d like to keep being that gullible, go right ahead and spend your money on that.

                As for me, I’m making backups already and giving them 3 months to remove the CEO from the position, or I’m cancelling my subscription and moving or, at this point, just hosting my own email locally.

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                  Bro this is some wild mental gymnastics being used to back up a lie, not to mention a wild tangent about a bunch of unrelated stuff, and presumptions about me as a person for doing nothing but pointing out a blatant lie.

                  Agreeing with a single decision someone makes is not the same thing as endorsing them. It’s just not.