• SinAdjetivos@beehaw.org
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    The USA has the highest incarcerated population in the world. Per capita it’s about 2-4x the list of “authoritarian” states that usually get referenced.

    Do you want to do a quick compare on the rates of extrajudicial killings as well?

    I don’t know what better quantitative measurement for “authoritarian” are than life and liberty. Do you have better ones?

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      While this is true I’m not sure what that has to do with authoritarianism. I think the reasons for incarceration speak far more to what is authoritarian and what isn’t. A thousand people incarcerated for murder isn’t authoritarian, a single person jailed for speech is. The US doesn’t have a perfect track record there but it’s far better than most other countries.

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        Homicide rate is far less than other countries.

        People are jailed and murdered in the US over “speech” all the time.

        It seems like your “us is far better” is based purely on vibes… Unless you’ve got some numbers you’d like to share?

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        An ethnic minority criminalised and prosecuted several times more than the ethnic majority of the country is authoritarian though.

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            2 hours ago

            Oh, do you have any statistics to bring up showing current, post-2021 incarceration rates by ethnicity in China?

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              only found this

              and guess why I couldn’t find an official and transparent statistic…

              because china is very authoritarian and has a lot to hide

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          No, its a hallmark of an authoritarian rule, not the proof of one. Believe it or not many places in history have been right bastards and have also been anti-authoritarian (think french revolution, the start of most communist revolutions, etc.) sometimes they are so anti-authoritarian they end up authoritarian.