In the age of the internet, where a manufacturer could sell direct to consumer, it seems it would make little sense to have resellers and that was the idea in the 90s when the Internet was in it’s infancy. But the hard truth is that selling is hard. You can bring a great product to market and yet it can still flop.
This is precisely why Alibaba is such a successful platform. It gives manufacturers, who specialize in making things, a marketplace and a sales process at a fraction of the cost of building out a whole sales team.
But, as anyone who has tried to sell their used items on Facebook likely has seen, consumers are fickle and the sales process can take an inordinate amount of time. For many, the time invested simply isn’t worth the effort.
And so, in the age where anyone can make a purchase instantly with the click of a button, we’re back to having middlemen. But if we’re going to have them, then we need to incentivize them. And just like for anyone else, the rules should be stable and fair enough to foster a healthy and innovative market.
This has been a very
“First they came for the Insurance
Then they came for journalists
then they came for salespeople”
kind of feel
Technology doesn’t make more better jobs for people. It just eliminates jobs, and people move on to usually worse jobs. or none at all
The moment someone ponies up and decides to pay my bills, I’ll quit my job and join the rah rah crowd. but until then, I speak for both the innocent office workers, the technicians, service advisors, and the sleazy salespeople, they all gotta fucken eat.
Why does the responsibility fall on someone else for you not to be a (self proclaimed) sleazy salesperson?
Ah yes, Lemmy, where we realize that the working class has it hard and people take whatever job they can get, UNLESS it’s a job you don’t like, in which case they should get fucked and find a different job.
They were making a point. The salespeople probably got those jobs because there was nothing else available that they could reliably do. Your enemy isn’t the salesperson who’s trying to make the best of their situation, it’s the legally mandated dealer network.
If someone wants to tell another person they shouldn’t have the job that they do, then unless they’re either going to pay the living expenses or arrange for them to move somewhere else without taking a huge loss on the home they currentley own, Their complaints are just noise.
There’s things I’d rather do, but I never got the opportunities to realize them without taking massive risk to myself or family. And the job I have, fell into my lap during a time when it was and still is hard to find decent paying work around here close to my home. So at the end of the day, its the lower and middle income people telling other lower and middle income people their jobs shouldnt exist, who can get fucked.
Be the change you want to see in the world; be an honest above board car salesperson. No four squares. No “let me check with the manager”. Upfront and fair pricing. No pricing games. Sell people what they want and not what commission you want to make.
Nah, I’m too environmentally focused to be a car salesman, would rather people take public transit or bike when possible.
But I have lived the Internet era and I’ve seen the promised utopia facade unmasked. Much of the Internet is a marketplace. Most people want to interact with a thing before they buy it (or return it after), but they want the utility of a brick and mortar at online-only prices. Until we have some Second-life metaverse where digital things from a manufacturer feel absolutely real, the world is going to need salespeople to mind the gap. And those salespeople deserve to eat too.
In the age of the internet, where a manufacturer could sell direct to consumer, it seems it would make little sense to have resellers and that was the idea in the 90s when the Internet was in it’s infancy. But the hard truth is that selling is hard. You can bring a great product to market and yet it can still flop.
This is precisely why Alibaba is such a successful platform. It gives manufacturers, who specialize in making things, a marketplace and a sales process at a fraction of the cost of building out a whole sales team.
But, as anyone who has tried to sell their used items on Facebook likely has seen, consumers are fickle and the sales process can take an inordinate amount of time. For many, the time invested simply isn’t worth the effort.
And so, in the age where anyone can make a purchase instantly with the click of a button, we’re back to having middlemen. But if we’re going to have them, then we need to incentivize them. And just like for anyone else, the rules should be stable and fair enough to foster a healthy and innovative market.
Found the car salesman.
All Carsalesmen Are Bastards.
Im not a salesperson, but I do work at one.
This has been a very “First they came for the Insurance Then they came for journalists then they came for salespeople” kind of feel
Technology doesn’t make more better jobs for people. It just eliminates jobs, and people move on to usually worse jobs. or none at all
The moment someone ponies up and decides to pay my bills, I’ll quit my job and join the rah rah crowd. but until then, I speak for both the innocent office workers, the technicians, service advisors, and the sleazy salespeople, they all gotta fucken eat.
I get that
Needed to fix issues. Makes sense.
Starting to lose me
They can get fucked. And not just sleazy car salesmen but all sleazy salespeople.
Why does the responsibility fall on someone else for you not to be a (self proclaimed) sleazy salesperson?
Ah yes, Lemmy, where we realize that the working class has it hard and people take whatever job they can get, UNLESS it’s a job you don’t like, in which case they should get fucked and find a different job.
They were making a point. The salespeople probably got those jobs because there was nothing else available that they could reliably do. Your enemy isn’t the salesperson who’s trying to make the best of their situation, it’s the legally mandated dealer network.
Just because they’re a salesperson doesn’t mean they have to be sleazy.
I mean yeah, but the unfortunate bit is that they’re heavily incentivized to be sleazy, by the commission system.
Tons of sales jobs out there literally pay minimum wage at most if you don’t sell enough. Idk if it’s the same for car sales.
If someone wants to tell another person they shouldn’t have the job that they do, then unless they’re either going to pay the living expenses or arrange for them to move somewhere else without taking a huge loss on the home they currentley own, Their complaints are just noise.
There’s things I’d rather do, but I never got the opportunities to realize them without taking massive risk to myself or family. And the job I have, fell into my lap during a time when it was and still is hard to find decent paying work around here close to my home. So at the end of the day, its the lower and middle income people telling other lower and middle income people their jobs shouldnt exist, who can get fucked.
Be the change you want to see in the world; be an honest above board car salesperson. No four squares. No “let me check with the manager”. Upfront and fair pricing. No pricing games. Sell people what they want and not what commission you want to make.
Nah, I’m too environmentally focused to be a car salesman, would rather people take public transit or bike when possible.
But I have lived the Internet era and I’ve seen the promised utopia facade unmasked. Much of the Internet is a marketplace. Most people want to interact with a thing before they buy it (or return it after), but they want the utility of a brick and mortar at online-only prices. Until we have some Second-life metaverse where digital things from a manufacturer feel absolutely real, the world is going to need salespeople to mind the gap. And those salespeople deserve to eat too.
Salespeople who provide value deserve to eat.
Salespeople who are a stack of shit in a suit designed to extract as much money from a customer as possible can have their jobs die in a fire.