Just to compare, this is the utopian dream for Toronto:

There are approx. 18 cars and trucks in that image.

They are taking up SIGNIFICANTLY more space, and are causing traffic.

Still, we keep saying, “give us more of this, please!”.

Insanity or stupidity?

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    They don’t even know how good they fucking got it.

    That’s because this way of city planning is normal there. You wouldn’t think that making streets and sidewalks safe for human beings would be such a big deal, but to us it’s unheard of!

    When we put a pedestrian crossing with gasp, a signal, motorists around here lose their minds! Not really, they just ignore them. /s

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      It’s normal because people in the 70s put in a lot of effort and protesting to make it normal. I thank them every day for that.

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      That’s because this way of city planning is normal there.

      If we’re allowed to factor in “normality” here, it’s a good idea to add some context to what’s got you so ornery…

      It sucks that America’s urban development came alongside the commercialization of cars, but here we are.

      Yes Amsterdam is great, it’s a beautiful city with great public transportation. It tracks that a city founded in the 13th century would be designed for a population that walks everywhere.

      It’s a strange comparison to make.

      Perhaps in 500 years Americas infrastructure will suit whatever social transportation trend people will be arguing about online. Until then I’ll just do my best to minimize my impact and try not to be a cock.

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        So what is stopping america from building its new neighbourhoods in denser and more compact design like new neighbourhoods in the netherlands? Its not 1350 anymore yet they still seem to be able to build density and walkability.

        Many American cities were founded before the car existed, why aren’t those neighbourhoods walkable and cycleable?

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          America has a big conservative streak. That’s typically why we can’t have nice things.

          Conservative in both the sense of “don’t want change” and also “don’t want outgroups to have nice things”.

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        You might be interested in this recent video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4uqbsueNvag

        Change can happen very quickly, both good and bad.

        There’s no reason why cities in North America have to throw up their hands and say “we can’t do anything about this.”

        Plenty of places have already returned cities back to people, and many are still trying. Some seem to have given up, and others don’t want to quit their car addiction.