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      Because rich people now know that if they midhandle a fire arm and kill a person, nothing will happen. They can blame some poorly paid wagie, they don’t have to accept any consequences for bad gross negligence

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        Ah. Ok. I mean, I’m of the opinion that he has every reason to believe he wasn’t going to shoot her when he pulled the trigger.

        But I just wasn’t sure if you were misunderstanding the headline or if you were in the camp of punish everybody all the time.

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            Personally, I just don’t think Baldwin is the one who deserves the charge. There were people on set responsible for ensuring his gun wasn’t loaded. Those people failed in their job.

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                As she should been but that doesn’t resolve issue of alecs Liabit as the guy who didn’t murder and the guy in charge of the set.

                These parasites love taking profit but they are never there to take any negative consequences

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              Folks really wanted Baldwin’s balls over this because he was Trump on SNL. A large part of this whole case was disguised political animus.

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              But wasn’t Baldwin not even supposed to be shooting at the person he killed? If he had shot someone he was supposed to fire a blank at, I understand. Aren’t you supposed to practice gun safety even with replicas? Don’t point at anything you’re not willing to shoot?

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                He was following the directions of the director and everybody involved, including the woman who died, agreed to do the scene. She wasn’t just some random person on set, she was behind the camera because she was the director of photography.

                If she didn’t feel the scene was safe to film, she had the right to say no to using a realistic prop. This is an obviously sad incident. But Manny people were found or pleaded guilty to the events. Baldwin just isn’t I’ve of them. Actors can’t be expected to be experts and have to defer to experts on set all the time.

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                    I think a lot of the confusion is that they were between takes.

                    He was drawing the weapon and rehearsing what he was going to do as they were discussing the next take and she was watching him through the camera. But the shot they were going for was most definitely him pointing the gun at the camera. The AD, I believe, was the one that handed him the gun without verifying it was cleared.

                    Baldwin is guilty of putting trust in the people around him doing their jobs correctly.

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        There are, yes. Unfortunately no one has written any articles about it, and multiple people haven’t gone to court over the situation either. It’s really too bad, it’s just a big black hole of information. The only thing all of us can do is simply read a headline and make emotional guesses as to what happened.

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        It was on a movie set where it is to be reasonably expected that the armorer will clear weapons to be safe on set and that actors aren’t expected to be firearms experts so that they are able to perform with them.

        It should also be expected that said armorers do their job as expected and NOT shoot real ammo out of prop guns. And if they do, they’re expected to properly clear them; even though they never should in the first place.

        But yeah, this was totally about Alec Baldwin the elite bourgeois flexing his real ultimate power of wealth and crushing the matter-nothing proletariat, the people have lost once again because he was not held accountable for someone else’s actions.

        I’m all for eating the rich but let’s not just make shit up, that makes us look ridiculous.

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          A really cheesy way to put it but I generally agree. However I don’t think that Alec Baldwin pressured the prosecutor to back off, I think the prosecutor didn’t want the smoke from other entities like Baldwin’s managers or business partners, or Alec Baldwin’s fans