• sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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    22 hours ago

    Energy use increasing isn’t an issue if carbon output is decreasing. That’s happening in the EU and the US, and countries like China and India will eventually get there.

    a carbon tax alone

    Sure, no single change will undo over a century of pollution, but I think you’re discounting the impact too much. I don’t know about the EU, but we haven’t even tried a carbon tax in the US. We have gas taxes and carbon credits, but those are largely ineffective IMO.

    If we place a carbon tax on imports, it’ll act like a selective tariff, so imported goods would have an incentive to reduce their carbon footprint. I think it could be quite effective at accelerating change.

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      21 hours ago

      Yes, my point is that many green advocates / leftists mistakenly think that per capita energy usage will go down.

      My point is that once it’s decoupled from emissions there is no reason for it to, so it will skyrocket, so western governments should be focusing on building out excessive seeming levels of clean electricity generation.

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        21 hours ago

        Yup, focusing on energy use misses the forest for the trees. The focus should be on net CO2 output, and as long as that’s trending downward, we’re making progress.