• Dasus@lemmy.world
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    6 days ago

    Well radical progress has never happened like that.

    I would argue that there have been peaceful societies which have been progressive.

    But right now, it seems radical progress is needed.

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      6 days ago

      I’m curious which ones you’re thinking of, because the progressive societies I’m aware of did not arrive there peacefully or have at the very least needed violence to defend their progress.

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        6 days ago

        No they didn’t arrive three peacefully, but to say they made no progress would also be wrong.

        The may not cave progressed aa much as the could have, but I’m pretty sure people have — on occasion — managed peaceful progress, rare as it is.

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          Small changes that don’t move the overall society have certainly been achieved without an implicit threat of violence, but if we want things to get better within our grandchildren’s lifetimes violence, or the threat thereof, will be necessary. The working class needs to understand this because the rich certainly do and practice it daily.