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  • JoBo@feddit.uk
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    1 year ago

    Would you rather post a ridiculously offensive question or just keep your thoughts to yourself?

      • JoBo@feddit.uk
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        1 year ago

        The hell do you think you’re going to learn by asking other ignorant people?

        If you want to understand what it is like to have a given disability, search out materials written by and for people who have experienced those disabilities. If you get a chance to ask a disabled person about how that disability affects them, without being a boring, insensitive, dehumanising dickhead, do so.

        Don’t ask a bunch of people without those disabilities to debate which would be most awful. And do not pretend it’s about educating yourself when you’re addressing your question to people who are mostly as clueless as you are. You’re not going to learn anything useful at all and you can’t possibly have imagined you would. You’re just adding to the mountains of awful dehumanising bullshit that is already out there.

        • Dr. Wesker@lemmy.sdf.org
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          1 year ago

          I feel like you’ve just projected a lot of your own context onto OP’s question. I think I understand what you’re getting at, but there’s a of anger in there that feels misplaced.

          • JoBo@feddit.uk
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            1 year ago

            You understand what I’m getting at but you don’t think it’s worth getting angry about?

            Yeah, sure.

            • Dr. Wesker@lemmy.sdf.org
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              1 year ago

              Let me rephrase:

              When I try to read between the lines of your unnecessarily aggressive rant, I believe what you’re getting at is that the question could be perceived as being insensitive to those that cannot read or are missing limbs.

              I however think that you’re communicating in a manner that displays very little control over your emotions, and a penchant for theatrics, and you are loading a lot of your own context onto a question that lacks it.

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                  1 year ago

                  You may be illiterate, or have no legs, or neither, and be offended by the question. You feel your feelings and nobody can tell you they are valid or not, regardless on their opinions of those feelings.

                  It’s not fair for you to decide for everyone that this is objectively offensive. It’s patronizing. People who are illiterate or have no legs have their own thoughts and feelings that are just as valid as yours, and you don’t get to speak for them or anyone except yourself. They may or may not be offended, and that is not a choice you get to make for them.

                  It’s great that you are concerned for those people and have empathy - I believe, or at least hope that we all do - but nobody can speak for them but themselves. I think that is part of the reason for the pushback you have received in this thread.

                  • JoBo@feddit.uk
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                    1 year ago

                    OP is not asking people who are affected by these disabilities to talk about their experiences. He is asking randoms to discuss which is worse, from a position of near total ignorance, for entertainment.

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                  1 year ago

                  That’s a ridiculously offensive question. What if Wesker is hearing-impaired?

        • KoboldCoterie@pawb.social
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          1 year ago

          I think you’re maybe reading too much into it… pretty sure it was just intended to be a hypothetical for discussion, not an attempt to learn about disabilities. It’s like, “Would you rather have unlimited money but be perpetually depressed, or always be happy but be perpetually broke?”

          If someone who actually has no legs came in and offered their opinion, that’d be a bonus, but it doesn’t strike me as the intended purpose of the post.

          If there’s anyone here who actually has no legs who is offended by this, I’d be interested to hear from them, but… if you have legs (because you’re clearly literate), are you sure you’re not just taking offense by proxy where none should exist or was intended?

          • JoBo@feddit.uk
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            1 year ago

            pretty sure it was just intended to be a hypothetical for discussion

            Exactly. How the hell you constructed the rest of your thoughts around that basic fact is beyond me.

            • KoboldCoterie@pawb.social
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              1 year ago

              I mean, you seem to have constructed your objection around a completely different premise, so… if this is a basic fact, than what is your objection, really?

              • JoBo@feddit.uk
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                1 year ago

                I don’t know what the fuck is going on in your head but my objection is to dehumanising discussions of disabled people. How is that so very hard to understand?