Jebus, stop trying to find a single group to blame, it’s the entire god damn American public that’s at fault.

White, Latino, Blacks, Asians, men, women, Catholics, Mormons, Muslims, atheists, Republicans, Democrats, progressives, everyone in America knew who Trump and Republicans are and screwed the pooch and the entirety of America.

      • Maggoty@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        7
        ·
        edit-2
        25 days ago

        We either are, or are not a country. If you absolve yourself of responsibility because you didn’t personally vote [for Trump] then there’s no impetus to make the country better. After all you’re just a passenger. You gave up your agency.

        Edit- I missed a couple words. I never meant to say they didn’t vote.

        • TrickDacy@lemmy.world
          link
          fedilink
          arrow-up
          5
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          edit-2
          26 days ago

          This is just some weird line of thought you came up with but it stands up to no scrutiny. Where it falls apart even more obviously is if you look at the more authoritarian governments around the world. Go ahead, blame those victims too and see how much sense it makes. But we don’t even have a democracy in the United States. The popular vote doesn’t matter as long as the gerrymandering worked as intended (which is often).

          The only way your logic would hold up at all is if there were some international program that let people move for free to another country if they didn’t like what was going on in theirs. Because that would never ever exist, and so much is beyond our control, it’s just braindead to pretend otherwise.

          Ps I voted and said so. Not sure why you’re saying I didn’t. My whole point is that we don’t get to victim blame those who did their part to stop this evil

          • Maggoty@lemmy.world
            link
            fedilink
            arrow-up
            1
            arrow-down
            7
            ·
            26 days ago

            Oh you voted Harris so you’re a victim now? Nobody has any sympathy for the people who did nothing but vote in those autocratic regimes. And throwing away your own agency certainly doesn’t make you a victim. We’re all in this no matter who we voted for.

                  • Maggoty@lemmy.world
                    link
                    fedilink
                    arrow-up
                    1
                    arrow-down
                    2
                    ·
                    25 days ago

                    What’s nonsensical here? We have a responsibility as citizens to turn this around. And saying, “but I voted against Trump, so I don’t owe anything” is just giving up your agency. If he goes the worst path the gestapo aren’t going to stop to ask if you still feel like being political.

    • Lucidlethargy@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      2
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      26 days ago

      Ah yes, right up there with marginalizing an entire group of people despite a lack of evidence. Oh, wait, it’s exactly that. 50% or less of American voters voted for Trump.

      • TrickDacy@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        3
        ·
        26 days ago

        Less than 50% out of those who voted. If we were looking at everyone eligible to vote it would be closer to 25%, for whatever that is worth. I blame people for not voting, that really pisses me off, but at the same time it’s getting harder and harder to blame people for losing hope of anything worth voting for. If trump can win, I feel like my vote is worth even less than it ever was.

      • Maggoty@lemmy.world
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        26 days ago

        If we’re not all responsible then we don’t have any agency and it’s all over already. Nobody looks back at Germany and says, but what about the people who voted for the other parties?