I never heard a single person claim the parties were the same this election cycle, and I certainly didn’t hear anyone say they wouldn’t vote for Harris because, “the Democratic Party isn’t perfect.” I heard lots of people say things like, “I can’t vote for Harris because she’s supporting a genocide,” and while I believe they should have voted for her based upon harm reduction, I understand their perspective and I’m not going to reduce it to a false caricatures.
Harm reduction for who? The dems aren’t allies to anyone they pretend to be allies towards, all they care about is fundraising and protecting their corporate donors.
Those Palestinians sure don’t feel “harm reduction”. Immigrants? The dems will also throw them under the bus. Trans people? Same thing. Women? They’ve had fifty fucking years to protect abortion but cynically fundraised off it instead.
Fuck democrats and the vote blue no matter who idiots who support them. Y’all a bunch of easily manipulated fools.
Buddy, if you’re take away from my comments here are that I’m a, “vote blue no matter who,” Democrat, you should go back to your high school and slap your English teacher, 'cause you apparently made it through without picking up any reading comprehension. For the record, you’re not wrong about the Democrats, but voting for someone who will neglect you over someone who will attack you is harm reduction. Voting for the party that will allow Israel to level the Gaza over the party that will allow Israel to level Gaza and annex the West Bank is harm reduction. Voting for the party that did nothing to protect Roe over the party that abolished it is harm reduction. Voting for the people who are soft of trans rights over the people putting bounties on trans people using the bathroom is harm reduction. That’s why it’s called harm reduction, not harm elimination.
That doesn’t mean that the Democrats are good, or that you should always vote for them in every election, and I clearly sympathize with people who could not bring themselves to vote for them this election. It just means we would be better off if Trump wasn’t going to be President, and personally, I blame the Democratic party for that failure.
Republicans didn’t abolish roe. The scotus did. Maybe if democrats got their shit together they wouldn’t of lost not one but three scotus seats due to their own incompetence.
RBG didn’t retire soon enough to give Obama the pick.
Obama didn’t fight hard enough for his right to pick a successor to Scalia.
Then they lost 2016 to trump because they ran an absolutely detestable candidate and ratfucked the primary so trump got to pick three justices - one to replace RBG (Amy coney barret) and one to replace Scalia (Neil gorsuch) and then kavanaugh to replace Kennedy who retired under trump.
When republicans go low, democrats go cry in a corner and throw up their hands and say there’s nothing they can do, they tried nothing and they’re all out of ideas.
Voting for democrats is delusional, not harm reduction. But whatever makes you feel better. Laughable that you somehow assume the democrats wouldn’t allow Israel to genocide the West Bank too. Both parties support the genocide wholeheartedly.
Again, not wrong about the criticism of the Democrats, just what harm reduction is. Putting incompetent, weak-willed centrists in power over literal fascists is practically the definition of harm reduction. Again, that’s doesn’t mean I think Democrats are good. Amputation is better than dying of gangrene, but that doesn’t mean I think having your arm cut off is good.
(Also, yeah, Democrats wouldn’t let Israel annex the West Bank. That’s why Israeli politicians didn’t start talking openly about full annexation until Trump won. Democrats did allow illegal settlements to slowly take portions of the West Bank with little pushback, and that’s fucking despicable, but again, full annexation vs. illegal settlements is a perfect example of harm reduction.)
Again, I don’t find your vote offensive. My original comment in this thread was making fun of the guy who was offended by your vote. All I said is that I think voting for Harris was an act of harm reduction, but I understood why so many people couldn’t vote for a candidate who was supporting a genocide. Then, I explained what harm reduction was. Twice. Now, seriously, go slap that English teacher.
OK, so if Harris had decided to roll back protections on the queer community, came out against gender affirming care, and started supporting, “pray the gay away,” shit, would you want straight people telling you to suck it up? Would you want them telling you that you’re a piece of shit if you don’t vote for her? That you’re stupid not to vote for her because Trump is worse? Having the emotional distance to make a cool, detached, “lesser evil,” argument is a position of privilege, and I don’t assume everyone shares it.
Im a queer woman who “sold you out”. All of that tech that Israel’s using against the Palestinians in their genocide will be used against us next.
I don’t give a fuck. Cry about it. Being out to brunch for four years when you should of been holding the dems accountable like you all promised the left (just this time we swear we’ll push them left after they get elected!) resulted in this outcome.
I never heard a single person claim the parties were the same this election cycle, and I certainly didn’t hear anyone say they wouldn’t vote for Harris because, “the Democratic Party isn’t perfect.” I heard lots of people say things like, “I can’t vote for Harris because she’s supporting a genocide,” and while I believe they should have voted for her based upon harm reduction, I understand their perspective and I’m not going to reduce it to a false caricatures.
Harm reduction for who? The dems aren’t allies to anyone they pretend to be allies towards, all they care about is fundraising and protecting their corporate donors.
Those Palestinians sure don’t feel “harm reduction”. Immigrants? The dems will also throw them under the bus. Trans people? Same thing. Women? They’ve had fifty fucking years to protect abortion but cynically fundraised off it instead.
Fuck democrats and the vote blue no matter who idiots who support them. Y’all a bunch of easily manipulated fools.
Buddy, if you’re take away from my comments here are that I’m a, “vote blue no matter who,” Democrat, you should go back to your high school and slap your English teacher, 'cause you apparently made it through without picking up any reading comprehension. For the record, you’re not wrong about the Democrats, but voting for someone who will neglect you over someone who will attack you is harm reduction. Voting for the party that will allow Israel to level the Gaza over the party that will allow Israel to level Gaza and annex the West Bank is harm reduction. Voting for the party that did nothing to protect Roe over the party that abolished it is harm reduction. Voting for the people who are soft of trans rights over the people putting bounties on trans people using the bathroom is harm reduction. That’s why it’s called harm reduction, not harm elimination.
That doesn’t mean that the Democrats are good, or that you should always vote for them in every election, and I clearly sympathize with people who could not bring themselves to vote for them this election. It just means we would be better off if Trump wasn’t going to be President, and personally, I blame the Democratic party for that failure.
Republicans didn’t abolish roe. The scotus did. Maybe if democrats got their shit together they wouldn’t of lost not one but three scotus seats due to their own incompetence.
RBG didn’t retire soon enough to give Obama the pick.
Obama didn’t fight hard enough for his right to pick a successor to Scalia.
Then they lost 2016 to trump because they ran an absolutely detestable candidate and ratfucked the primary so trump got to pick three justices - one to replace RBG (Amy coney barret) and one to replace Scalia (Neil gorsuch) and then kavanaugh to replace Kennedy who retired under trump.
When republicans go low, democrats go cry in a corner and throw up their hands and say there’s nothing they can do, they tried nothing and they’re all out of ideas.
Voting for democrats is delusional, not harm reduction. But whatever makes you feel better. Laughable that you somehow assume the democrats wouldn’t allow Israel to genocide the West Bank too. Both parties support the genocide wholeheartedly.
Again, not wrong about the criticism of the Democrats, just what harm reduction is. Putting incompetent, weak-willed centrists in power over literal fascists is practically the definition of harm reduction. Again, that’s doesn’t mean I think Democrats are good. Amputation is better than dying of gangrene, but that doesn’t mean I think having your arm cut off is good.
(Also, yeah, Democrats wouldn’t let Israel annex the West Bank. That’s why Israeli politicians didn’t start talking openly about full annexation until Trump won. Democrats did allow illegal settlements to slowly take portions of the West Bank with little pushback, and that’s fucking despicable, but again, full annexation vs. illegal settlements is a perfect example of harm reduction.)
The weak democrats that are going to roll over and hand the fascists power? Those democrats?
No. Im good with my vote, sorry it’s so offensive to liberal sensibilities.
Again, I don’t find your vote offensive. My original comment in this thread was making fun of the guy who was offended by your vote. All I said is that I think voting for Harris was an act of harm reduction, but I understood why so many people couldn’t vote for a candidate who was supporting a genocide. Then, I explained what harm reduction was. Twice. Now, seriously, go slap that English teacher.
She didn’t and still doesn’t support genocide. Trump, on the other hand has always supported genocide and will continue doing so.
Does it matter bro? They sold out all the women and queers in America for a country that hates women and queers. (Im lgbt i can say that)
OK, so if Harris had decided to roll back protections on the queer community, came out against gender affirming care, and started supporting, “pray the gay away,” shit, would you want straight people telling you to suck it up? Would you want them telling you that you’re a piece of shit if you don’t vote for her? That you’re stupid not to vote for her because Trump is worse? Having the emotional distance to make a cool, detached, “lesser evil,” argument is a position of privilege, and I don’t assume everyone shares it.
That would still be a poor comparison, itd affect queers here in America, not halfway across the world
“This is a bad analogy; the people being harmed are far away, therefore it’s not as bad,” is one hell of a take.
Im a queer woman who “sold you out”. All of that tech that Israel’s using against the Palestinians in their genocide will be used against us next.
I don’t give a fuck. Cry about it. Being out to brunch for four years when you should of been holding the dems accountable like you all promised the left (just this time we swear we’ll push them left after they get elected!) resulted in this outcome.
Ill keep that in mind if we end up at the same camp
Given that RFK Jr wants to send the adhd people into camps I’ll probably end up in a concentration camp.