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    In the 2020 primaries, Bernie Sanders was rapidly gaining support. Based on the number of candidates and how they were splitting the vote, he stood the best chance of winning.
    Then, the call went out. I’m not sure how else to describe it. All the competing candidates were in one day, and then most of them withdrew the next day and cleared the moderate field for Biden. It was a coordinated choice by a donor group or DNC or something that catapulted a mid popularity Biden to the top of the pack. Hence the calls of ‘DNC sabotaged Bernie’

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      Thank you. Seems like the DNC brought upon Trump by themselves.

      OP could’ve added that context to the comic. We don’t all follow the news from abroad.

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      But why are they still talking about in in 2100 in the comic? I don’t get whether it’s shitting on the Bernie supporters for not moving on, or taking the piss out of the democratic party not getting its shit together.

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        no, he had just won two primaries in a row. Everyone but Biden, Bernie, and Warren dropped out. Warren was just as beholden to the DNC as the rest of them, but she stayed in specifically to split the progressive vote, in order to catapult the flailing Biden into pole position. It was clear as day, a coordinated effort to stop Bernie from being the Democratic candidate.

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          Warren played Marcus Brutus to Sanders’ Caesar, live on National television.

          She’s a wretch. She also falsely claimed native american heritage, which was an out and out lie.

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            Remember when she called Bernie “anti-woman” and made some claim that he had said a woman can’t be president? I lost all respect for her after that.

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          Don’t forget the part where everyone dropping out endorsed Biden right after. Another funny case was Buttigieg, who was doing well after the first few primaries, even won some, but then just decided to drop out.

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          It was a calculated decision to win the election and Biden won the election. It was a decision made by the individual candidates. Not the DNC.

          I would vote for Bernie but America has more moderate voters than far left or far right. That needs to be considered when deciding the next candidate.

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      That’s literally just politics. Apply the same logic to the recent french elections where competing left-wing candidates dropped out to not split the vote.

      Nothing was stopping Bernie from making a deal with Amy and Pete to stay in the race to keep the centrist vote split

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        If it was biden making a deal then that’s one thing. I don’t think that’s what happened. I think the DNC power players or donors said ‘we don’t want Bernie’ and the rest of the group fell in line.

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          If that was the case then Buttigege would have just been threatend funding wise and wouldn’t have needed to be offered a cabinet position, which only Biden had the power to give.

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        That’s literally just politics.

        This gives the same energy as saying “it’s just business” after doing some heinous shit.

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            I’m the one blind to reality? You actually think Bernie had any sway over any one of the moderates who dropped out to give Biden the win? They were loyal to the Democratic Party, not Bernie, and certainly not to their principles, if truly they had any.

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              They’re ambitious and self-interested. Would Pete have turned down an offer of VP to stay in the race - and potentially still win the presidential nomination - I don’t think so

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        That’s literally just politics.

        And see, that’s the problem people complain about. They are doing bad politics by ganging up to the candidate that’s gaining support from the people who are looking for someone different. Those people end up in Trump’s camp when the Ds can only offer more corporate elites.

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          Why is that bad politics, but dividing 60% of the democratic centerists amongs Biden, Klob, and Pete to achieve victory good politics?

          Aren’t you alienating the largest portion of the base who will feel cheated that their candidate only lost because the race was too crowded with centrists?

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            I think it would be better if the voters decided to gang up on Bernie and compromise with Biden over the others. Or the other candidates didn’t run at all. This way they just made a mockery of the election process.

            Edit: seriously, think about it. Why are you running at all if you’re fine with some other centrist taking over eventually? Just to keep up with the illusion of choice? Stay out of the race and let people see they didn’t have a choice in the first place.

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              So you’re against candidates being able to drop out and throw their support behind one of the remaining candidates.

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                And I suppose you like if the democratic party offers an illusion of choice amongst clones of candidates who are in the pockets of the same donors?