Harris Tried to Win Over Republicans. Democratic Support Collapsed Instead
www.rollingstone.com
Kamala Harris did not pull Republicans from Trump, and the percentage of voters identifying as Democrat declined, according to exit polls.

Harris only received five percent of Republican votes — less than the six percent Joe Biden won in 2020 when he beat Trump, as well as the seven percent won by Hillary Clinton in 2016 when she lost to him. While Harris won independents and moderates, she did so by smaller margins than Biden did in 2020.

Meanwhile, Harris lost households earning under $100,000, while Democratic turnout collapsed. Votes are still being counted, but Harris is on pace to underperform Biden’s 2020 totals by millions of votes.

  • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.worldEnglish
    214·
    1 month ago

    I asked why and he cited holding the same position Isreal as Biden, and courting republicans like Cheney, saying that was not a good look for the party at all.

    I told him it’s not ideal

    And this is what you don’t get. There’s a huge fucking gap between “not ideal” and “supporting genocide to the point that Dick Cheney likes you.” And you didn’t acknowledge it. You just belittled it with “not ideal.” Because you couldn’t admit that what Democrats were doing was monstrous and unconscionable.

    Anyone who pulls this “you didn’t get 100% of everything you want, but…” shit? They got 100% of everything they wanted. Especially the genocide support. And especially Cheney.

      • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.worldEnglish
        6·
        1 month ago

        The thought is that running to the right failed. The thought is that Harris should have listened to criticism.

        We tried to warn you what would happen, and every last time, we got this insipid unthinking “you say something me not want hear! Me accuse you of being trumper! Me very smart!” shit. You have learned absolutely nothing from 2016 and 2024.

        In 2028, if there is an election, let’s hope some of you have learned that treating your base with contempt while simping for Republicans doesn’t work.

        • IceColdBoots@lemmy.world
          1·
          1 month ago

          Dems have always hated progressives more than the right. And you’re saying “you” a bunch, and I guess you mean neoliberal Democrats or some other people who aren’t me… but anyway.

          I’m asking about the strategy of, on election day: “One side is/is moving towards the right, and I don’t like that. To combat that, I’ll allow the most extreme right people into power, with a solid chance of destroying whatever is left of USA’s democracy, while stripping it for parts.”

          In a binary system, how does choosing the worse side help you? Did you not learn from Trumps last victory, that sitting on the sideline while fascists take away more and more rights while cementing their power and destroying institutions, doesn’t work?

          • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.worldEnglish
            21·
            1 month ago

            You just got a great indicator of where the “Let’s do anything we want and as long as we’re second worst, everyone who isn’t a monster has to vote for us!” mindset leads.

            But blaming the voters is easier than introspection and adaptation. So lecture away and learn nothing.

            • IceColdBoots@lemmy.world
              11·
              1 month ago

              I was simply asking the thought process on voting day while agreeing with the majority of your complaints. But you aren’t interested in discussing anything, you just want to throw a fit and feel smug. Carry on then, I’m sure that’s working out for you.