Many in Ramallah argue things cannot get any worse but some say US result could add unpredictability to despair

Summary

Palestinians in the West Bank are largely pessimistic about Donald Trump’s re-election, viewing it as unlikely to significantly worsen their already dire situation, though some fear it could embolden Israeli actions.

Trump’s support for Israel’s far-right policies, including the potential dismantling of the UN agency Unrwa and backing of Israeli settlements, could deepen economic hardship and escalate violence against Palestinians.

While some Palestinians worry about increased oppression, others see a Trump presidency as a chance to expose brutal realities, possibly sparking stronger resistance.

  • switchboard_pete@fedia.io
    2013·
    14 days ago

    being angry at voters who didn’t vote the way you wanted them to isn’t going to actually achieve anything, though

    harris didn’t even win the popular vote. it wasn’t even a particularly close election. you can’t not blame the dnc after a defeat like this.

    • JeffKerman1999@sopuli.xyzEnglish
      237·
      14 days ago

      I can and I will. If voters are ok with fascism, fuck them. And if women are ok with being considered objects to own, fuck them too. This “I didn’t feel energised to go vote” bullshit is just bullshit to avoid take responsibility. You had a choice: fascism or not. You chose fascism.

    • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldMEnglish
      2210·
      14 days ago

      What do you think is achievable at this point? America is going to turn into a fascist dictatorship and lots of voters did not give enough of a shit to stop it.

      You want to tell me being angry at voters achieves nothing? Neither does blaming the DNC. American democracy is over.

        • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldMEnglish
          116·
          14 days ago

          I don’t understand why you think that’s what I believe. Criticize it all you want. It won’t change a thing. The DNC is a non-factor from now on because there will be no more actual elections.

      • Captain Aggravated@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
        22·
        14 days ago

        What do you think the election of 2028 was going to look like after Kamala’s term?

        How many "possibly the last ever election"s were the Democrats planning to win in a row? There didn’t seem to be any intention to back away from that precipice.

        • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldMEnglish
          21·
          14 days ago

          What do you think the election of 2028 was going to look like after Kamala’s term?

          I don’t know. But I can tell you what it wouldn’t look like: the last election in Russia.

          It will now.

          Enjoy.

      • switchboard_pete@fedia.io
        313·
        14 days ago

        if you honestly believe that’s the future of the us, you should probably leave the country

        you should probably have been planning to leave the country for the last three months, since the election never went more than 60% in harris’ favor

        • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldMEnglish
          203·
          14 days ago

          I am leaving the country.

          I didn’t trust people like you to keep my queer daughter safe because I knew there was only one genocide that mattered to you when it came to voting.

          I’m a dual citizen with the UK where the current government is going to ban conversion therapy, there’s socialized medicine and there is no one saying they’ll be a dictator.

          And no, I don’t care what you have to say about how bad the UK is, they’re not going to march my daughter into a conversion camp. If I could take every queer person with me, I could. America is not safe for them anymore.

          • WanderingVentra@lemm.eeEnglish
            22·
            14 days ago

            TERF Island isn’t much better. You’ll probably have to fight there, too. Once they’re done with fighting trans people, they’ll go back to fighting other LGBTQ people, it happens every time. But I get wanting to leave the US. I’ve been considering it, too. You got to do what’s best for your family.

            • Flying Squid@lemmy.worldMEnglish
              8·
              14 days ago

              I am really getting tired of telling people that the King’s Speech this year, which outlines government policy, specifically mentioned eliminated conversion therapy, and plenty of Tories are on board because the Church of England are also against conversion therapy.

              I have studied where I’m going before making plans.

    • SkyNTP@lemmy.mlEnglish
      91·
      14 days ago

      In a democracy, the correct approach is to hold the majority accountable for their leader’s actions, especially when the leader is doing exactly what they said they would do. Non voters are also complicit by standing by silently, so I’m not opposed to holding them accountable too.

    • atzanteol@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
      71·
      14 days ago

      If you’re voting on lunch and the choices are between an anchovy pizza and a shit sandwich, and your coworkers choose the shit sandwich, do you blame the people who told you to vote for the anchovy?