• missingno@fedia.io
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    19 days ago

    You know what the difference between Harris and Trump is? The difference is that the right actually likes their guy. And when the base likes their guy, that excitement resonates with voters.

    Running a milquetoast candidate that nobody actually likes didn’t work in 2016. We barely got away with it in 2020, but it should never have been so close. And now that it isn’t working this year, should we try to actually learn a lesson here, or would you rather just keep blaming the left for everything?

    Do you want to just do the same thing and expect different results in 2028?

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      19 days ago

      I find it amazing that no one seems to have any sense of… well, really, fucking anything anymore. Self-preservation, empathy, pragmatism, whatever. It amazes me that people can sit by and let the place burn around them, and then turn around and say, “Hey, maybe you should’ve made me want to save myself and my neighbors.”

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        19 days ago

        I am just as horrified as you are that more than half the country got excited about a man who’s actively aiming to destroy it. But you are blaming the wrong people.

        The question I am asking you is, what lesson will you learn from this? If pointing fingers at the left is all you can do, we will lose 2028 too.

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          18 days ago

          we will lose 2028 too.

          Hahaha ha!

          2024 was the one that mattered, just like 2000 did.

          I genuinely hope the whole left tries to vote for whoever their dumbest choice is next time, I’ve already got a place in Europe, enjoy your consequences!

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        19 days ago

        Its so very pragmatic to turn on South American and Muslim voters, look at how well we did with that strategy /s

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        18 days ago

        You’re fear mongering, of course we’ll have an election in 2028.

        And Ivanka will win it with 98% of the vote, just like Putin does.

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      19 days ago

      Democrats have to cater to like three different and mostly separate agendas to win. Republicans only have to cater to one. I think the problem is we’ve been expecting Dems to pull off what is essentially impossible.

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        18 days ago

        No they don’t, that’s just lies the Dems keep repeating.

        Progressive issues are overwhelmingly popular in the U.S. Exit interviews and polling shows that in the key swing states, ignoring progressive issues is what made voters dissatisfied with Harris. If they had let Harris run a progressive campaign, I think it is very likely they could have won.

        The only two agendas the Dems are pulled between are the agendas of their corporate donors who don’t care if they win, and a progressive agenda that could actually win them elections. They overwhelmingly choose their corporate donors every time, and then hope progressives will keep them in office because they have no other choice.

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        18 days ago

        “Give us better standards of living so people don’t consider fascism as the solution to any and every problem.”

        Instead we got her being Dick Cheney’s friend and wanting Republicans in the cabinet. And people saw someone catering to Republicans and went “I guess I’ll vote for Republican”.