• SapphironZA@sh.itjust.works
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    19 days ago

    Today we learned that America is more sexist than racist.

    They will vote for a black man in droves, but not a woman.

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      19 days ago

      What a bad take. Hillary Clinton won the popular vote. It has very little to do with race or sex. I’m not going to pretend that it has nothing to do with that, but certainly not enough to change the results in even the tightest of races.

      The democrats ran a bad race and they crippled themselves by not having a primary. A primary allows voters to hear more from candidates and Joe all but said he would be a one term president. Him holding onto power like he did while having such a low approval rating really kneecapped any chances for another dem to inject excitement into the base.

      Like it or not, a politicians job interview isn’t based on their policy, it’s based on their ability to get votes. Kamala Harris didn’t get enough votes, so she did a bad job. She might not have been given the tools to do better (like having a primary in which to get her views out), but ultimately she failed. If you’re a sheep herder and you can’t herd your sheep where they need to go, you can’t blame the sheep. It’s your job and you’re bad at it. The sheep are what they are. Sure, you can point out that the other shepherd beats his sheep into submission, or slaughters the sheep who misbehave, but ultimately if he manages to get the flock (with or without all the sheep) somewhere, and you can’t get them anywhere, then it’s your fault. Not only are you a bad herder, but the sheep that remain in your flock are worse off because you’re unable to protect them since you’re floundering trying to get the lost sheep. They just sit there picked off by wolves (or whatever I’m not a shepherd) watching you be upset at the lost sheep. They would be better served by a better shepherd. They might not have been better served by the other guy, but that doesn’t mean anything now because you failed and now the wolves are getting them anyway. Blame the sheep if you want, but that doesn’t help you find a better shepherd next time.

      The sheep who misbehave MAY be sexist, which statistically is not the reason they stray, but if it was, you should have left them to a different shepherd. It’s your job to protect them and if they’re sexist and won’t follow a woman, it’s in everyone’s (including hers) best interest to just let a man do it. Though, I can’t stress enough how little that probably changed the result of this election.

      I’m a woman and I voted Clinton. I voted Harris. If I could choose between never having a female president for the rest of Americas future but having all the presidents align with my issues, or swing between R and D with some women sprinkled in, I’d choose option #1 without question. I don’t need a woman in office, I need someone who can win and make policy changes I support. I don’t care about anything else. Having a female candidate who wants to protect my bodily autonomy does nothing for me if I can get a president who does. Making this about identity politics is a great way to remove pressure from the dems to do better. Before the election you can’t criticize dems. Apparently after the election you can only criticize voters. The dems ran a terrible race and have been failing on both policy and optics for the entirety of her run. I feel bad for her, but I feel worse for us. America is screwed and the dems refuse to take any accountability. (Obviously the Rs are the absolute worst, but telling satan he’s evil just makes him smile, so I don’t bother. In case you want to know why I never really mentioned Rs).

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        19 days ago

        Before the election you can’t criticize dems. Apparently after the election you can only criticize voters.

        Best line I’ve read all day.

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        19 days ago

        I agree with your position. It’s how Americans should be thinking.

        The problem is a not insignificant portion of blue voting and undecided men, did not pitch up like they did for Biden and Obama.

        A good campaign might have helped make those people more comfortable and addressed the issues that matter to those men.

        Its time for the Dems to get out of their ivory towers and listen to the socialists and leftists in their party that have been warning against the Dems shift to the right. Hopefully American democracy will still be alive by the time they get their chance.

      • Eugene V. Debs' Ghost@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        19 days ago

        This is very well written. Ideally, a candidates sex doesn’t matter, their policies do.

        Harris was shifting to the right to gain Republicans, Republicans didn’t care and voted for the person who is a Republican.